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The word "prison" in the qur'an

Started by Ju5, March 06, 2018, 04:42:40 PM

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good logic

Peace The Sardar.
You are trying hard and rightly so by scrutinising what is said by the readers here.
Qoran is "shouting out" a challenge to all generations , can it stand the scrutiny? Well only if the book was from the Lord of the universe will it stand  all the challenges of your fellow humans.
Do you think the book needs our help? Do you think this is not GOD s way and plan?
Those who scrutinise Qoran are welcome by us. Those who find contradictions, nonsense are welcome by us, those who question everything in the book are welcome by us.
The brothers and sisters here(well the majority) have been there, done that, ongoing doing that.
In fact because we do not want to follow anyone else ,we are here persevering , questioning and discussing this "unique" book.

As far as Ju5 is concerned, we had conversations  here about few subjects. I will deal with the last two:
1- The claim of the verses that contradicted about Iblees being a Malaika :

- We had no confirmation from other verses that  blees is indeed a Malaika if one assumed Iblees was a Malaika from the verse in surah 2- the context started with Malaika and the "Khalifa on earth". Why was n t it assumed that Adam was also a Malaika? Or Iblees was one of the "Khalifa on earth"?
- Why was it confirmed elsewhere that Iblees was of the Jinn?
- why was the "Sujud to GOD by everything on earth and in heaven " ignored?
And many issues for Ju5 on that thread that were not dealt with. Misconceptions, assumptions and false translations were the issue in my opinion.

2-. Iktau Aydiyahuma in 5:38 means severe both hands of the thief?:

- No answer to why 4,why not 3 hands?
-No answer to "how deep a cut to the hands?( graze, middle /deep cut or severe completely)
-No answer to why follow 5:33( If indeed it means severe completely?) and not 12:31 (where the ladies kept conversing after cutting their hands". Surely they did not severe their hands completely!!!).
- No answer as  how to correct the punishment if the thief repents
- Why not an Idiom that means "cut of what their hands earn" to compensate for the theft?
Again many issues with logic, misconceptions and lack of context of interpretation.

I am not even going to mention "the sun setting in murky lake/water" it is just too ridiculous(Thanks The Sardar for providing that link for it) .
Of course we do check things. That is why we are here looking at different point of views and scrutinising them.
If Ju5 wanted to save us from Qoran, then of course it was a failure. No evidence whatsoever . Just a lot of misunderstanding of the book and false assumptions I am sorry to say.
I hope Ju5 will find something useful and worthwhile to do. Best of luck.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
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Noon waalqalami

Quote from: Ju5 on April 02, 2018, 12:00:01 PM
@Noon waalqalami

4 hands=hands of male and female thief= correct grammar=all hands=you are a liar, and you purposefully omit this

from hand to elbow= nothing unclear in this, hand means hand, elbow means elbow, from hand to elbow

there is no "from" in the sentence...

quote author=Noon waalqalami link=topic=9610091.msg414621#msg414621 date=1522521708]
5:6 فاغسلوا so washes ye of وجوهكم faces yours واىدىكم and hands yours الى to المرافق the elbow

goodbye!