### Author Topic: Symmetry and number 7  (Read 1249 times)

#### ibn_a

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##### Symmetry and number 7
« on: March 15, 2018, 01:16:12 AM »
Salaam

Symmetry and number 7

The first time number 7  is mentioned, is in chapter 2 verse 29,  preceded by 28 verses.

28 = 7 x 4

The last time number 7  is mentioned, is in chapter 78 verse 12, followed by 28 verses
until the end of this chapter. (chapter 78 has 40 verses.)

28 = 7 x 4

From the chapter where 7  is  mentioned the first time,  to the chapter where it is mentioned  the last time there are 77 chapters.

77 = 7 x 11

From the verse where 7  is  mentioned the first time,  to  the verse where it is mentioned the last time ,  there are 5649 verses.

5649 = 7 x 807

77 Chapters  = 7 x 11
<-------------------------------------------------->
First 7                                                         Last 7
Chapter 2 v 29        |              5649 Verses 7 x 807                   |     Chapter 78 v 12
<------------------------><--------------------------------------------------><------------------------->
28 Verses = 7 x 4                                                                           28 Verses = 7 x 4

source: www.kaheel7.com/eng/index.php/numeric-miracle/149-the-beautiful-arrangement-of-seven-in-the-quran
source: www.gawaher.com/topic/738769-numerical-miracles-in-the-quran-real-evidence/?page=2

#### Noon waalqalami

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##### Re: Symmetry and number 7
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2018, 11:45:27 AM »
From the verse where 7  is  mentioned the first time,  to  the verse where it is mentioned the last time ,  there are 5649 verses.

Peace, incorrect.

Earliest manuscripts initials e.g. alif lam meem etc., were not counted as separate verses and counting "some of them" as separate verses appears that was introduced hundreds of years after earliest manuscripts.

See example...

The Birmingham Qur'an - University of Birmingham

Quran Tubingen University Ma VI 165

Berlin, Staatsbibliothek: Wetzstein II 1913 (Ahlwardt 305)

Likewise as with all numerology it's statistically insignificant, inconsistent, meaningless, and pattern-less.

1.   2:29 سبع seven
2.   2:261 سبع seven
3.   12:43 سبع seven
4.   12:43 سبع seven
5.   12:46 سبع seven
6.   12:46 سبع seven
7.   12:47 سبع seven
8.   12:48 سبع seven
9.   23:17 سبع seven
10.   41:12 سبع seven
11.   65:12 سبع seven
12.   67:3 سبع seven
13.   69:7 سبع seven
14.   71:15 سبع seven

15.   12:43 وسبع and seven
16.   12:46 وسبع and seven

17.   17:44 السبع the seven
18.   23:86 السبع the seven

19.   15:87 سبعا seven of
20.   78:12 سبعا seven of

21.   2:196 وسبعه and septet (i.e. group of seven)
22.   15:44 سبعه septet
23.   18:22 سبعه septet
24.   31:27 سبعه septet

#### ibn_a

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##### Re: Symmetry and number 7
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2018, 09:27:54 AM »
Salaam.

Peace, incorrect.

This is from qira'at(reading) Hafs, 6236 verses.

... counting "some of them" as separate verses appears that was introduced hundreds of years after earliest manuscripts.

#### Noon waalqalami

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##### Re: Symmetry and number 7
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2018, 12:34:16 PM »
Salaam.

This is from qira'at(reading) Hafs, 6236 verses.

salaam,
no such thing as hafs/warsh (later innovation) earliest manuscripts were all consistent.
again see examples clearly no end verse marks after ta ha (20:1-2 was a single verse).

The Birmingham Qur'an - University of Birmingham
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/news/latest/2015/07/quran-manuscript-22-07-15.aspx

Quran Tubingen University Ma VI 165
http://www.historyofinformation.com/expanded.php?id=4739

Berlin, Staatsbibliothek: Wetzstein II 1913 (Ahlwardt 305)

Codex Topkapı Sarayı Medina 1a - Qur'ān Topkapı Sarayı Museum, Istanbul, 1st/2nd Hijra