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Bring 10 surahs like it .
« on: March 13, 2018, 08:05:07 AM »
Salaam

Bring 10 surahs like it. (11.13)



- If we search in the quran we find that the word سورة (surah) is mentioned 9 times in singular form and 1 time in plural form   سور



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و إن كنتم في ريب مما نزلنا على عبدنا فأتوا بسورة من مثله و ادعوا شهداءكم من دون الله إن كنتم صدقين

البقرة:  23

And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful. 2.23

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 يحذر المنفقون أن تنزل عليهم سورة تنبئهم بما في قلوبهم قل استهزءوا إن الله مخرج ما تحذرون

التوبة:  64

The hypocrites are apprehensive lest a surah be revealed about them, informing them of what is in their hearts. Say, "Mock [as you wish]; indeed, Allah will expose that which you fear. 9.64

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 و إذا أنزلت سورة أن ءامنوا بالله و جهدوا مع رسوله استءذنك أولوا الطول منهم و قالوا ذرنا نكن مع القعدين

التوبة:  86

.And when a surah was revealed [enjoining them] to believe in Allah and to fight with His Messenger, those of wealth among them asked your permission [to stay back] and said, "Leave us to be with them who sit [at home]." 9.86

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 و إذا ما أنزلت سورة فمنهم من يقول أيكم زادته هذه إيمنا فأما الذين ءامنوا فزادتهم إيمنا و هم يستبشرون

التوبة:  124
.And whenever a surah is revealed, there are among the hypocrites those who say, "Which of you has this increased faith?" As for those who believed, it has increased them in faith, while they are rejoicing. 9.124

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 و إذا ما أنزلت سورة نظر بعضهم إلى بعض هل يرىكم من أحد ثم انصرفوا صرف الله قلوبهم بأنهم قوم لا يفقهون

التوبة:  127
.And whenever a surah is revealed, they look at each other, [saying], "Does anyone see you?" and then they dismiss themselves. Allah has dismissed their hearts because they are a people who do not understand. 9.127

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 أم يقولون افترىه قل فأتوا بسورة مثله و ادعوا من استطعتم من دون الله إن كنتم صدقين

يونس:  38

Or do they say [about the Prophet], "He invented it?" Say, "Then bring forth a surah like it and call upon [for assistance] whomever you can besides Allah, if you should be truthful. 10.38

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 أم يقولون افترىه قل فأتوا بعشر سور مثله مفتريت و ادعوا من استطعتم من دون الله إن كنتم صدقين

هود:  13

.Or do they say, "He invented it"? Say, "Then bring ten surahs like it that have been invented and call upon [for assistance] whomever you can besides Allah, if you should be truthful. 11.13

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 سورة أنزلنها و فرضنها و أنزلنا فيها ءايت بينت لعلكم تذكرون

النور:  1

[This is] a surah which We have sent down and made [that within it] obligatory and revealed therein verses of clear evidence that you might remember.

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 و يقول الذين ءامنوا لولا نزلت سورة فإذا أنزلت سورة محكمة و ذكر فيها القتال رأيت الذين في قلوبهم مرض ينظرون إليك نظر المغشي عليه من الموت فأولى لهم 

محمد:  20

Those who believe say, "Why has a surah not been sent down? But when a precise surah is revealed and fighting is mentioned therein, you see those in whose hearts is hypocrisy looking at you with a look of one overcome by death. And more appropriate for them [would have been]. 47.20

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- Chapiter 11 verse 13 where " ten surahs" is mentioned is preceded by 10 chapiters





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Re: Bring 10 surahs like it .
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2018, 08:54:26 AM »
Salam and welcome dear brother Ibn_A  :welcome: it seems it's in arabic, are you a native arabic speaker?

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Re: Bring 10 surahs like it .
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2018, 09:09:38 AM »
Thanks.


I learned Arabic and still learning.

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Re: Bring 10 surahs like it .
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2018, 09:15:49 AM »
Thanks.


I learned Arabic and still learning.
Oh? You can read arabic? If you can i can give you 2 websites to help your research of the original language of Allah's (SWTAY) divine revelation (Al-Quran)

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Re: Bring 10 surahs like it .
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2018, 09:33:56 AM »
what are these websites?

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Re: Bring 10 surahs like it .
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2018, 09:40:43 AM »
what are these websites?
One is http://www.baheth.info/ & the other is http://arabic.tripod.com/index.html. I hope this will help you. Salam/Peace.  :group:

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2018, 10:06:22 AM »
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Re: Bring 10 surahs like it .
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2018, 09:25:03 AM »
you're doing an amazing job. keep it up i love these posts

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Re: Bring 10 surahs like it .
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2018, 01:58:46 AM »
Salaam.

you're doing an amazing job. keep it up i love these posts

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...Then bring ten surahs like it that have been invented.... (11.13)

- When we search in the quran we find that the word سورة  (surah) is mentioned 9 times in singular form
and 1 time in plural form * سور (surahs)



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و إن كنتم في ريب مما نزلنا على عبدنا فأتوا بسورة من مثله و ادعوا شهداءكم من دون الله إن كنتم صدقين

2.23

And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful.

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يحذر المنفقون أن تنزل عليهم سورة تنبئهم بما في قلوبهم قل استهزءوا إن الله مخرج ما تحذرون

9.64

The hypocrites are apprehensive lest a surah be revealed about them, informing them of what is in their hearts. Say, "Mock [as you wish]; indeed, Allah will expose that which you fear.

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و إذا أنزلت سورة أن ءامنوا بالله و جهدوا مع رسوله استءذنك أولوا الطول منهم و قالوا ذرنا نكن مع القعدين

9.86

And when a surah was revealed [enjoining them] to believe in Allah and to fight with His Messenger, those of wealth among them asked your permission [to stay back] and said, "Leave us to be with them who sit [at home]."

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 و إذا ما أنزلت سورة فمنهم من يقول أيكم زادته هذه إيمنا فأما الذين ءامنوا فزادتهم إيمنا و هم يستبشرون

9.124

And whenever a surah is revealed, there are among the hypocrites those who say, "Which of you has this increased faith?" As for those who believed, it has increased them in faith, while they are rejoicing.

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 و إذا ما أنزلت سورة نظر بعضهم إلى بعض هل يرىكم من أحد ثم انصرفوا صرف الله قلوبهم بأنهم قوم لا يفقهون

9.127

And whenever a surah is revealed, they look at each other, [saying], "Does anyone see you?" and then they dismiss themselves. Allah has dismissed their hearts because they are a people who do not understand.

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 أم يقولون افترىه قل فأتوا بسورة مثله و ادعوا من استطعتم من دون الله إن كنتم صدقين

10.38

Or do they say [about the Prophet], "He invented it?" Say, "Then bring forth a surah like it and call upon [for assistance] whomever you can besides Allah, if you should be truthful.

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أم يقولون افترىه قل فأتوا بعشر سور مثله مفتريت و ادعوا من استطعتم من دون الله إن كنتم صدقين

11.13

.Or do they say, "He invented it"? Say, "Then bring ten surahs like it that have been invented and call upon [for assistance] whomever you can besides Allah, if you should be truthful.

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سورة أنزلنها و فرضنها و أنزلنا فيها ءايت بينت لعلكم تذكرون

24.1

[This is] a surah which We have sent down and made [that within it] obligatory and revealed therein verses of clear evidence that you might remember.

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و يقول الذين ءامنوا لولا نزلت سورة فإذا أنزلت سورة محكمة و ذكر فيها القتال رأيت الذين في قلوبهم مرض ينظرون إليك نظر المغشي عليه من الموت فأولى لهم 

47.20

Those who believe say, "Why has a surah not been sent down? But when a precise surah is revealed and fighting is mentioned therein, you see those in whose hearts is hypocrisy looking at you with a look of one overcome by death. And more appropriate for them [would have been].

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- Chapiter 11 verse 13 where " ten surahs" is mentioned is preceded by 10 chapiters


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www.alargam.com/prove2/burhan4/

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Re: Bring 10 surahs like it .
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2018, 02:19:19 AM »
Salaam,
Thank you for sharing your discovery.
The numerical-semantical structure of the Quran leaves me astonished each time.
Glory be to The Lord.
Is he who is based on proof from his Lord, as he for whom his evil works have been adorned for him and they followed their desires?
~ 47:14 ~

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Re: Bring 10 surahs like it .
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2019, 06:06:54 AM »
Salaam,



Salaam,
Thank you for sharing your discovery.
The numerical-semantical structure of the Quran leaves me astonished each time.
Glory be to The Lord.

You're welcome IsaMuslim.




More observations about  the challenge of " ten chapters " in the Quran.

11.13 Or do they say, "He invented it"? Say, "Then bring ten surahs like it that have been invented and call upon [for assistance] whomever you can besides Allah, if you should be truthful."


Mentioned in the first post.

- In the Quran, the word  سورة  ( chapter) is mentioned 9 times in singular form
and 1 time in plural form سور  ( chapters), total of 10 times

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 Verse 13 in chapter 11 where  the challenge of "10 chapters" is mentioned, is preceded by 10 chapters

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More observations.

- After  verse 13 in chapter 11  to the end of this chapter, there are 110 verses

110 = 10 x 11

10 --- number of "chapters challenge".

11 --- chapter where the  "10 chapters"  challenge is mentioned.


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- From the 114  verses numbred 1 in the Quran, only 1 verse consists of 10 words,
it is the first verse in chapter 11,  i.e. right after 10 chapters.


11:1
alif-lam-ra kitābun uḥ'kimat āyātuhu thumma fuṣṣilat min ladun ḥakīmin khabīrin

الر كتب احكمت ايته ثم فصلت من لدن حكيم خبير
 
الر   كتب   احكمت   ايته   ثم   فصلت   من   لدن   حكيم   خبير

Alif. Lam. Ra. A DIVINE WRIT [is this], with messages that have been made clear in and by themselves, and have been distinctly spelled out as well - [bestowed upon you] out of the grace of One who is wise, all-aware,   (Muhammad Asad)

Alif. Lam. Ra. (This is) a Scripture the revelations whereof are perfected and then expounded. (It cometh) from One Wise, Informed,   (M. M. Pickthall)   

A. L. R. (This is) a Book, with verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning), further explained in detail,- from One Who is Wise and Well-acquainted (with all things)          (Yusuf Ali)

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After verse 13 in chapter 11 to the end of the Quran there are 4750  verses

4750 = 10 x 475

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والله اعلم
Allah knows best.

source Arabic :
https://vb.tafsir.net/tafsir15919/#.XCH_OGlCeCh
www.alargam.com/prove2/burhan4/4.htm
Quran Uthmani Script
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http://www.kaheel7.com/ar/index.php/...07-03-19-11-02
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9obKsQW-2LlazNfQjRGYS1ORlk/view