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Curiosity of crossing the pharaohs of Egypt
« on: January 09, 2018, 07:43:26 AM »
Writer Texe Marrs is talking about the reasons for the Egyptian pharaohs ' obsession in bringing the legs and arms diagonally to the position:

İn ancient Egypt, the mark of "X" and the symbol of cross-bones in the symbol of an X was very prominent in religious contexts. You can find the X on the walls of a number of ancient Egyptians temples and pyramids... It is the sign of Osiris, the great sun God..
The ancient pharaohs, when they were buried, had the legs crossed in the form of "X" as a sign of devotion to Osiris.''

 Codex Magica (Texe Marrs)

The X-mark in Pagan Egyptian religion is the cross-mark was holy:

These ancient Egyptian figures demonstrate how prevalent was Osiris' sacred sign, "X."



The mummy of Rameses the Great (1279-1213 B.C.) was found in this cedarwood sarcophagus. This pharaoh is thought by Egyptologists to be the ruler who enslaved the Israelites and forced them to build cities.



Painting from the Tomb of Rameses I, Valley of the Kings, West Thebes, in Egypt.




The identity of the legends is also confirmed by this hieroglyphic picture, copied from an ancient Egyptian monument, which may also enlighten you as to the Lion's grip and the Master's gavel.


Codex Magica

TEXE MARRS


This may explain why the pharaoh in the past has been talking about a crossing of limbs and arms as a threat.

20:63 They said, "These are but two magicians who want to take you out of your land with their magic, and they want to do away with your ideal way.

20:64 "So agree upon your scheme, then come as one front. Whoever wins today will succeed."

20:65 They said, "O Moses, either you cast down or we will be the first to cast down."

20:66 He said, "No, you cast down." So their ropes and staffs appeared from their magic as if they were moving.

20:67 Moses held some fear in himself.

20:68 We said, "Do not fear, you will best them."

20:69 "Cast down what is in your right hand; it will consume what they have made. They have only made the work of a magician, and the magician will not succeed no matter what he does."

20:70 So the magicians went down in prostration. They said, "We acknowledge the Lord of Aaron and Moses."

20:71 He said, "Have you acknowledged him before taking my permission? He is surely your great one who has taught you magic. So, I will cut off your hands and feet from alternate sides( in x/cross shape), and I will crucify you on the trunks of the palm trees, and you will come to know which of us is greater in retribution and more lasting!"

20:72 They said, "We will not prefer you over the proofs that have come to us, and over the One who initiated us. So issue whatever judgment you have, for you only issue judgment in this worldly life."

This crossover mark was blessed in the pagan Egyptian religion, and so was especially the rituals of cross arms and legs.


The tradition of holding arms and legs in position X can also be seen in other pagan applications around the world. For example, Hindus cross the legs while meditating in the Far East.



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Re: Curiosity of crossing the pharaohs of Egypt
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2018, 07:54:40 AM »
hmm intresting  :peace:

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Re: Curiosity of crossing the pharaohs of Egypt
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2018, 07:58:10 AM »
In past , the assailants killed the Muslims, pulled them out of their vatas, or cut them in cross/X shape.

In the past, other spiritualist pagans, such as Pharaoh, did the same.

And this verse about self defense and retaliation.

5:33 The recompense of those who fight God and His messenger and seek to corrupt the land, is that they will be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off on alternate sides or that they be banished from the land. That is a disgrace for them in this world. In the Hereafter, they will have a great retribution.

In short, crossing is about self defense and retaliation to attacker pagans (Who cuts the Muslims in X shape).

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Re: Curiosity of crossing the pharaohs of Egypt
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2018, 08:12:54 AM »
That text youhave put is very, very weak.

The "Osiris X". Just speculation as there are hundreds of speculations and fantasies on acient Egypt.

But in the whole history of Egyptology not a single mention yet of those "hebrew" people.

Many people many in the world bury with the ams crossed over the chest without ia jacket to it. nventing an "Osiris X".

And crucifixion was not a usage of ancient Egypt, never.

That is what is called finding a button and sewing a jacket to it.

As to cutting on opposite sides, I suppose, since we use the X today for so many purposes, we are also prone to cut members on opposite sides?

X = Y + Z = left foot + right hand.

cute arithmetics.

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Re: Curiosity of crossing the pharaohs of Egypt
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 08:17:47 AM »
English translations are incomplete and inaccurate.

The verse says cross/X in Arabic.

They were in ancient Egyptian civilization. This is indisputable.

And this is the new miracle of the  Qur'an.

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Re: Curiosity of crossing the pharaohs of Egypt
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 09:16:04 AM »
English translations are incomplete and inaccurate.

The verse says cross/X in Arabic.

They were in ancient Egyptian civilization. This is indisputable.

And this is the new miracle of the  Qur'an.

Regards.


Which Arabic words do you say that say "cross/X" in the Qur'an  Arabic text, please quote them. That aya is not at all in any context in which it can be attributed to Egypt or anything to do with Egypt.

And what you say is indisputable, if you insist on that bringing the indisputable to the fore, what it tells me is that you do not want it disputed, but that in fact it is perfectly not only disputable but deniable.

Inventing a Magical X as if we were in a cinema show, and then bringing pictures of a position of the armas which is as common in human attitudes as in art, is really a very feeble argument for anything. If you want to put a dead person in a coffin with his ruling attributes and fit it well and shapely, regardless of any magic or of any Osiris, you have to cross the arms as it is done in the pictures you show, that is the way the fit and that they are not haphazardly set and also the way they look best. There is no need to seek for some esoterical mumbo jumbo to account for that.   

Another remarkable thing is that all along the story of Yusuf, the text of the Qur'an speaks many times of the "land" without a proper name.

And again, crucifixion, either in X or in +(plus), was not practised in Ancient Egypt. Alien to it. So even if there were any magical "cross/X" in the Qur'an it cannot have anything to do with Ancient Egypt.

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Re: Curiosity of crossing the pharaohs of Egypt
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2018, 11:11:58 AM »
The verses I gave are talking about cutting hands and feet in the form of cross/x.

And this is the miracle of a new Qur'an. Because as Texe Marrs discovered, the pharaohs  make cross/X shape  hands and feet. It proves it with photos.

Do not confuse this with the crucifixion in Christianity.

This is making hands and feet to the shape of X.

They were in ancient Egyptian civilization. This is indisputable.

But this civilization probably had a much wider territory than it believed.

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Re: Curiosity of crossing the pharaohs of Egypt
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2018, 11:52:09 AM »
The verses I gave are talking about cutting hands and feet in the form of cross/x.

And this is the miracle of a new Qur'an. Because as Texe Marrs discovered, the pharaohs  make cross/X shape  hands and feet. It proves it with photos.

Do not confuse this with the crucifixion in Christianity.

This is making hands and feet to the shape of X.

They were in ancient Egyptian civilization. This is indisputable.

But this civilization probably had a much wider territory than it believed.

Salaam.


Your attempt to tie up a pretended "Osiris X" with the cutting of hand an feet on oposite sides and with Egypt does not make sense. If you cut a hand on the right and a foot on the left, you do not have an X. If you are keen on having something at all you would and you are keen on this kind of witty play with the opposite sides, you would have a diagonal from one cut member to the other, because if you cut both hands and both feet you may make an X and you can also make two parallel horizontal lines and two para llel vertical lines. But X would be just one of the possibilities of the little entertainment. But that is not what the aya says, it says hand and feet on opposite sides, one hand one foot, because if you cut both hands and both feet they would not be on opposite sides they would be on all sides. And again no crucifixion in Ancient Egypt and although the cutting of a hand was known for certain crimes, not so the cutting of feet.

Again the crossing of hands or arms over the chest is a very common thing and I would say a spontaneous thing, I do not think it is a matter of a civilisation. The Egyptians did all types of scupltures and paintings on every subject and and I doubt that there is something they did not represent. What would be surprising would have been they did not do it.

If you try to give a good figure to a dead person and give the attributes of a ruler an put it in a sarcophage, how would you put that would look and fit better than the way you have shown? And it is not the "Osiris X", rather it is that Osiris was a representation of resurrection, Qiyama, and therefore the way he is shown as you call the OsirisX is as a dead, it is not because it is Osiris that he is depicted like that but because he is dead, and as a dead he is fitted into a coffin in the same way that all dead, the most ergonomic.

The extent of Egyptian civilisation may have been great southwards along the Nile, and may be  SOME marginal influence and good trade in Asia and Creta and other places yes, just as there were SOME influences and trade from other civilisations on Egypt.


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Re: Curiosity of crossing the pharaohs of Egypt
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2018, 12:17:54 PM »
The verses I gave are talking about cutting hands and feet in the form of cross/x.

And this is the miracle of a new Qur'an. Because as Texe Marrs discovered, the pharaohs  make cross/X shape  hands and feet. It proves it with photos.

Do not confuse this with the crucifixion in Christianity.

This is making hands and feet to the shape of X.

They were in ancient Egyptian civilization. This is indisputable.

But this civilization probably had a much wider territory than it believed.

Salaam.



https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/codex_magica/codex_magica11.htm
In past , the assailants killed the Muslims, pulled them out of their vatas, or cut them in cross/X shape.

In the past, other spiritualist pagans, such as Pharaoh, did the same.

And this verse about self defense and retaliation.

5:33 The recompense of those who fight God and His messenger and seek to corrupt the land, is that they will be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off on alternate sides or that they be banished from the land. That is a disgrace for them in this world. In the Hereafter, they will have a great retribution.

In short, crossing is about self defense and retaliation to attacker pagans (Who cuts the Muslims in X shape).

The Jews created the Cabhala with the teachings they took from the Egyptians.

Kabbalah is a leaked version of pagan Spiritualism/New Ageism to the Jewish world.

It's a Trojan horse, just like Sufism.