Are sperm banks anti quranic?

[357]

Are sperm banks anti quranic?

If a man doesn't have any sperms or has an impairment  can the women have another mens sperm?

[HP_TECH]

Are sperm banks anti quranic?

If a man doesn't have any sperms or has an impairment  can the women have another mens sperm?

Having children is not important. Having children is not the epitome of a relationship nor of this existence.

Having a wife or being in a relationship is not necessarily of good for you.
Some family members, children wife, siblings or even parents are indeed a trial for you.
Even obsessing over having a child to the extent of contemplating taking such extreme measures can be part of that trial.

Why would a believer want his woman to be impregnated by another man? That is a covert form of zina.

Wife and husband belong to each other completely and her womb cannot be borrowed by another nor can his sperm be used by another.

No one's seed belongs in a wife's womb but the husband's.

Can you imagine Ibrahim or Zakaryia asking one of their male attendants to impregnate their own wives to obtain an heir?

That is inconceivable and absurd. God grants to whom He wills heirs and makes others barren. That is all but a trial. And not are children and acquisition of wealth but a delusion of the life of the world.

A believing couple would be satisfied with whatever Allah ordains for them and endure patiently.

If you feel a great need in your breast for nurturing and raising little ones then, why not adopt? There are tons of orphans.

Also remember Allah's Words always.

8:28
And know that your wealth and your children (are) a trial. And that Allah - with Him (is) a reward great.

34:37
And not your wealth and not your children [that] will bring you close to Us (in) position, but whoever believes and does righteousness, then those, for them (will be) reward two-fold for what they did, and they (will be) in the high dwellings secure.

63:9
O you who believe! (Let) not divert you your wealth and not your children from (the) remembrance (of) Allah. And whoever does that, then those [they] (are) the losers.

64:14-15
O you who believe! Indeed, from your spouses and your children (are) enemies to you, so beware of them. But if you pardon and overlook and forgive, then indeed, Allah (is) Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Only your wealth and your children (are) a trial, and Allah - with Him (is) a reward great.


42:48-50
Then if they turn away, then not We have sent you over them (as) a guardian. Not (is) on you except the conveyance. And indeed, when We cause to taste [the] man from Us Mercy, he rejoices in it. But if befalls them evil, for what have sent forth their hands then indeed, [the] man (is) ungrateful.
To Allah (belongs the) dominion (of) the heavens and the earth. He creates what He wills. He grants to whom He wills females, and He grants to whom He wills [the] males.
Or He grants them males and females; and He makes whom He wills barren. Indeed, He (is) All-Knower, All-Powerful.

[huruf]

I do not think it is necessarily a question of laws, but we seem to live in a world where if there is a technical possibility of it, wefeel that we should ressort to it automatically regardles of everything else. What we want is our law. Of course on tha road we can only go thar far and get a lot of frustration.

It is a fact of life that for our own good we must rennounce along the away to many things that we could possibly get if it were a question of material possibility. Not everything we can get we should get at any cost.

All those technical attainments of our age give us more power but also more responsibility. We should bear in mind our dignity as humans and don't base our value on what we can get. That is a sure way to frustration and self blinding.

For some things it may be very tough indeed. I have nto lived that but I guess the need to have children may be overpowering. In older times, people just accepted it with simplicity: We can't then we can't, it is as simple as that. Power, capacity to get things really cmplicates things for us very much. We open wide doors to great evils, like womb hiring or sperm banks. I am not going to get into the sanitary complications of the question. Biological inheritance cannot be overriden. May be things will change, but I do not thin shortly they will change all that much. But we do complicate life more than is good for us.

We should bear in mind, at the same time that we look at our "needs", look also at our value, our peace and our society and feel more accutely our esponsibility in shaping it. We may use technical advancement for good, but we should not feel compelled to ressort sutomatically to any adavancement. That is like being condemned.

It reminds me of Ancient Egypt. They staunchly refused slavery and money while knowing that everybody else around them used them. They saw in them a corruption for society. That civilisation overcame many troubles and lasted 3.000 years or more. They must have done something right. That something I think was to have a clear sense of their values and not exchange them for hot air just because it was so available.

Salaam 

[good logic]

I think "comfort" and "false security" leads us humans to be selfish and inflates our ego.
We need something and regardless of nature and instinct ,we charge ahead and break all laws to get it.
We feel /have false power and we blindly ignore our instinct and go full steam ahead to acquire anything we desire,including to have children no matter what !

Yes huruf,next,or already here,we are choosing the shape and beauty of "our child" ,the perfect shape,the gender,the looks etc...DNA will provide and Science will help(warped Science?).Reminds me of the Hitler regime!!!

Like  HP_TECH said,many babies and children are needing homes and care,what is wrong with helping the ones already born?

The question for me should not be are sperm banks anti Qoran? But why do we need sperm banks for?
If nature and humans needed sperm banks ,GOD would have provided them for us and instructed  the proper usage .
GOD bless.
Peace.

[huruf]

This is an interesting debate.

I hate to be absolute or too categorical on something, or rather think that if the principle is clear, what flows from it should also be clear with due consideration. The question is to decide what we value, what we consider that by being or doing it we are being faithful to ourselves, to the creatures we are. We are moral creatures, with some power but not all power, abismally far from that. We should assess ourselves honestly.

I do not want to be hard on people who crave for children because simply they are like that. I think I have understanding for them. But then, again. Can we have all we want? Is it good that we should have all we want.

Can everybody have a wonderful love with an ideal couple? We would all like that, having the things that we crave for in life or that we have been taught to crave. But we also must know that frustration is also part of our lot ... and we should be thankful for it. Everything contains the seed of hapiness, even the denial of the things most make us dream and crave. In that sense, the worship of success is a shaytan of first order. What is wrong with failure?

I don't know how much you know about tangos, the music, Uruguayan and Argentinian, some of them are the best philosophical manifests of the inherent dignity of failure. One should read and sing some of those songs. There is a lot to learn. Again, what is wrong with failure? We should go beyond that and discover ourselves more deeply.

It is also weird that while one wants everything, including children, bringing them up has been difficult at any time in history, but today, like with so many things, those difficulties have been brought near perfection. We are brought to believe that having children is the ultimate accomplishment and then find out that we bring up children in order that they can be trown down the gutter through drugs, perversion, arrogance, self dilusion, frustration with which they cannot cope... There are even sociological studies telling us which children are condemned even before they are conceived, single mothers and so on. So there again some people that according to the sucess god should not have children...

We are always dealing with symptons and never think of true health or real desease. Do we trust?

Sorry for the sermon.

Salaam

[good logic]

Of course one cannot judge what people choose,unless it infringes their rights.
People are free to choose what is right or what is wrong the question can be  what they think is right may be wrong,and vice versa.

However,our instinct has been programmed for us with "ringing bells " within our body as warnings ,yet we ignore. Even after we ignore we get what we call "remorse",guilt" "Intuition that things are not right"...etc yet we still repeat the dose of ignoring our instinct.
Just my thoughts.
May be I  am ignoring my instinct by writing this.
Have I entered a labyrinth? Should I be carrying on this conversation?
GOD bless.
Peace.

[hawk99]

Are sperm banks anti quranic?

If a man doesn't have any sperms or has an impairment  can the women have another mens sperm?

Peace 357,

What do you mean by "anti Quranic"   


                   

[357]

Peace 357,

What do you mean by "anti Quranic"   


                   

Are they against the law of the quran, which i think says , "believers are those who only have intercourse with their partners ...."
or something like that.

why do people have intercourse just for sex or for something more then that?

Having your own child is great - to, then, bring them up so they are great human beings, you can to an extent shape their intelligence , health, height (depending on what you do to help in their development and growth.) - make them better human beings , to serve the almighty by better serving humanity ...e.t.c



Of course if you are impaired as a men then all this may not be possible, and should then your wife also give up the God given right to have a child?

[Comrox]

Are they against the law of the quran, which i think says , "believers are those who only have intercourse with their partners ...."
or something like that.

I'm confused... Sperm banks mean you don't have sex with the person. You don't even see them. There's no relationship there.

why do people have intercourse just for sex or for something more then that?

Pleasure is another huge factor.

Of course if you are impaired as a men then all this may not be possible, and should then your wife also give up the God given right to have a child?

Not everyone wants children. Not everyone wants biological children. Not everyone wants to (or is able to) be married or in a committed relationship by the time they want to have children, and they may opt for single parenthood. Of course this isn't even taking into account the many LGBTQ+ individuals that want children too.

If someone has known fertility issues, they need to bring that up before they get married. If their issues are serious enough to cause them to not have their own biological children, that's important information to tell one's prospective partner, so they can decide for themselves if this is a person they should marry or not. Their partner needs to be aware of this possibility to know if they can accept the reality that may come with it - either it being very difficult in the future to have biological children, or impossible entirely.

If it's difficult, that means it's still a possibility. Financially expensive and emotionally taxing, but a possibility. Today we have fertility testing, drugs, artificial insemination, in vitro fertilization, surrogacy, donor sperm OR eggs, etc. There are a lot of options that allow for a couple to still have their own biological child. Couples may choose to explore all these options, or they may not. If biological children are not a possibly at all, a couple may choose to remain childless or look at other avenues like fostering or adoption.

[357]

I'm confused... Sperm banks mean you don't have sex with the person. You don't even see them. There's no relationship there.

Pleasure is another huge factor.

Not everyone wants children. Not everyone wants biological children. Not everyone wants to (or is able to) be married or in a committed relationship by the time they want to have children, and they may opt for single parenthood. Of course this isn't even taking into account the many LGBTQ+ individuals that want children too.

If someone has known fertility issues, they need to bring that up before they get married. If their issues are serious enough to cause them to not have their own biological children, that's important information to tell one's prospective partner, so they can decide for themselves if this is a person they should marry or not. Their partner needs to be aware of this possibility to know if they can accept the reality that may come with it - either it being very difficult in the future to have biological children, or impossible entirely.

If it's difficult, that means it's still a possibility. Financially expensive and emotionally taxing, but a possibility. Today we have fertility testing, drugs, artificial insemination, in vitro fertilization, surrogacy, donor sperm OR eggs, etc. There are a lot of options that allow for a couple to still have their own biological child. Couples may choose to explore all these options, or they may not. If biological children are not a possibly at all, a couple may choose to remain childless or look at other avenues like fostering or adoption.

Its Okay to use a Donor sperm according to the quran , is it?
So the child Biologically will be the wife's and another mans....