Nouman Ali Scandal Erupts

[HP_TECH]

Peace reel,

I don't know if he said that. I quite frankly know little of him and am uninterested in his personal life.
I just know pious believers should refrain from gossiping about such matters and should not repeat rumors. And wait until clear evidence is released.

[Lost]

Not because he's a traditionalist that this should serve as a way to humiliate him, something alike could happen to anyone really.
Shit happens I guess...

However, given his popularity and how this might greatly affect his reputation, this would at least knock off one main source of traditionalist propaganda.

[Man of Faith]

We are not more flawed than we make ourselves.

[reel]

Salaamun,

Here are the screenshots.
Or copy and past
https://skepticaldesi.wordpress.com/2017/09/23/evidence-against-nouman-ali-khan-screenshots/

Nouman's response to this chat messages. If the link doesn't work please copy and paste
http://www.zemtv.com/2017/09/25/nouman-ali-khan-response-on-leak-whatsapp-chat/

Thanks for the links. His words were funny.

Hot fantasy?

Not because he's a traditionalist that this should serve as a way to humiliate him, something alike could happen to anyone really.
Shit happens I guess...

However, given his popularity and how this might greatly affect his reputation, this would at least knock off one main source of traditionalist propaganda.

Yeah, that was relieving, but his fans seems similar to Trumpers.

Peace reel,

I don't know if he said that. I quite frankly know little of him and am uninterested in his personal life.
I just know pious believers should refrain from gossiping about such matters and should not repeat rumors. And wait until clear evidence is released.

This kind of stuff is actually serious and needs discussion. Mullahs are the driving force of everything that is wrong in the  mainstream Muslim communities. There are too many perverts among them and they abuse their power. One I know impregnated a mentally ill girl in the 90s. But of course, Nouman is the only one who on air shows too much interest in sexuality/

[Lost]

Notice how he consistently insist on how he loves the quran and how he's been trying to teach its content for so many years, not realizing that his man-made religion ain't got nothing to do with quran but is almost purely derived from so-called ahadith 

He should've said that he loves Bukhari instead, that would be much more appropriate. May god guide him and guide us all though.

One thing that caught my attention also is this Iranian in the comments section talking about how Arabs ruined Persians. The persian conspiracy against the quran sure was a real thing and their hatred toward the Arabs is still present up to this day and age...

[mmkhan]

Salaamun,

I don't like him btw.

Reason? Here it is..

Once I was seeing one of his videos [long back], he said people who don't believe in hadith are munafiqs.
I asked him in comments box for evidence from alQuraan. He never came back to me on that.

I also mentioned to him that I will consider the one who said as munafiq if he fails to backup his claim from alQuraan.

Exactly same thing happened with me with Yusuf Estes.

They only know how to blah blah blah but they don't understand that they are standing on an empty and loose platform which may fall anytime along with them. May Allah protect us all.

[reel]

Notice how he consistently insist on how he loves the quran and how he's been trying to teach its content for so many years, not realizing that his man-made religion ain't got nothing to do with quran but is almost purely derived from so-called ahadith 

He should've said that he loves Bukhari instead, that would be much more appropriate. May god guide him and guide us all though.

I have noticed that both Edip and Farouk indirectly hinted on how deep down inside Nouman knows he is not being honest about Quran. Edip used the word "paymaster" as the director of what he says.

One thing that caught my attention also is this Iranian in the comments section talking about how Arabs ruined Persians. The persian conspiracy against the quran sure was a real thing and their hatred toward the Arabs is still present up to this day and age...

Oh, I almost forgot I saw that comment. Thanks for bringing it up. What you mentioned above was the exact thing that came to my head when I read it. Strange that Persians can't forget anything despite the fact that their fake Muslim scholars have been the world's most successful agents in causing the maximum amount of damage to their enemies. It hasn't even stopped now. But they weren't saints either back then. They were doing exactly what they accuse the Arabs/Muslims of doing before the invasion:

1. They were in constant war with almost every surrounding nation.
2. They went around invading countries.
3. They forcefully converted those of other religions.
4. They enjoyed wiping out cultures of the countries they invaded by doing what we can call as forceful "persianization".
5. They allowed let's say "Zoroastrian sharia law" through their priests in the government and that pretty much started killing their military power.
6. They persecuted the Christians and Jews and one time, their priests were angry at one of the emperors for being tolerant towards those people.
7. They banned public sabath in and closed the Jewish schools.
8. They decreased the freedom of the entire Jewish community after some rebels killed two Zoroastrian priests because they were fed up of the harsh policies.
9. They imposed excessive tax on their population to sponsor their ongoing wars.
10. They were highly racist. Their priests used to call the Arabs lower class.

They eventually were attacked from almost all side by Turks and Khazars. The Arabs from Saudi were simply new to the casino and somehow ended up with the Jackpot.

Cute words from their own priest Kartir:
"The false doctrines of Ahriman (evil) and of the idols suffered great blows and lost credibility. The Jews (Yahud), Buddhists (Shaman), Hindus (Brahman), Nazarenes (Nasara), Christians (Kristiyan), Baptists (Makdag) and Manichaeans (Zandik) were smashed in the empire, their idols destroyed, and the habitations of the idols annihilated and turned into abodes and seats of the gods".

Salaamun,

I don't like him btw.

Reason? Here it is..

Once I was seeing one of his videos [long back], he said people who don't believe in hadith are munafiqs.
I asked him in comments box for evidence from alQuraan. He never came back to me on that.

I also mentioned to him that I will consider the one who said as munafiq if he fails to backup his claim from alQuraan.

Exactly same thing happened with me with Yusuf Estes.

They only know how to blah blah blah but they don't understand that they are standing on an empty and loose platform which may fall anytime along with them. May Allah protect us all.

That's the lecture that struck me also. But no worries. Both Edip and Farouk requested a debate. It fell into Nouman's deaf ear. He chose to REJECT "picture" is haram hadiths to talk about how hadiths must be ACCEPTED on...youtube and it was the same old stuff he said in that specific lecture of his.

[HP_TECH]

Wow reel you know history, you should make a post going in depth about it.
Growing up in Italy and the US I got no exposure to history of the Middle East.

[mmkhan]

That's the lecture that struck me also. But no worries. Both Edip and Farouk requested a debate. It fell into Nouman's deaf ear. He chose to REJECT "picture" is haram hadiths to talk about how hadiths must be ACCEPTED on...youtube and it was the same old stuff he said in that specific lecture of his.

Salaamun,

Thanks for sharing this I was not aware of it.

[Lost]

I have noticed that both Edip and Farouk indirectly hinted on how deep down inside Nouman knows he is not being honest about Quran. Edip used the word "paymaster" as the director of what he says.

Oh, I almost forgot I saw that comment. Thanks for bringing it up. What you mentioned above was the exact thing that came to my head when I read it. Strange that Persians can't forget anything despite the fact that their fake Muslim scholars have been the world's most successful agents in causing the maximum amount of damage to their enemies. It hasn't even stopped now. But they weren't saints either back then. They were doing exactly what they accuse the Arabs/Muslims of doing before the invasion:

1. They were in constant war with almost every surrounding nation.
2. They went around invading countries.
3. They forcefully converted those of other religions.
4. They enjoyed wiping out cultures of the countries they invaded by doing what we can call as forceful "persianization".
5. They allowed let's say "Zoroastrian sharia law" through their priests in the government and that pretty much started killing their military power.
6. They persecuted the Christians and Jews and one time, their priests were angry at one of the emperors for being tolerant towards those people.
7. They banned public sabath in and closed the Jewish schools.
8. They decreased the freedom of the entire Jewish community after some rebels killed two Zoroastrian priests because they were fed up of the harsh policies.
9. They imposed excessive tax on their population to sponsor their ongoing wars.
10. They were highly racist. Their priests used to call the Arabs lower class.

They eventually were attacked from almost all side by Turks and Khazars. The Arabs from Saudi were simply new to the casino and somehow ended up with the Jackpot.

Cute words from their own priest Kartir:
"The false doctrines of Ahriman (evil) and of the idols suffered great blows and lost credibility. The Jews (Yahud), Buddhists (Shaman), Hindus (Brahman), Nazarenes (Nasara), Christians (Kristiyan), Baptists (Makdag) and Manichaeans (Zandik) were smashed in the empire, their idols destroyed, and the habitations of the idols annihilated and turned into abodes and seats of the gods".

That's the lecture that struck me also. But no worries. Both Edip and Farouk requested a debate. It fell into Nouman's deaf ear. He chose to REJECT "picture" is haram hadiths to talk about how hadiths must be ACCEPTED on...youtube and it was the same old stuff he said in that specific lecture of his.

And yet mainstream ''muslims'' are still being deceived till this day, unknowingly ascribing to god their zoroastrian rituals they refer to as the most important thing for someone's salvation, how pathetic really... And speaking about the ritual prayer, the principal objection traditionalists have towards quran only believers is that they can't accept that their ''namaz'' (even the name speaks for itself hahaha) could have been introduced without people noticing and they firmly believe it to be the way the prophet prayed. If only they knew what these Persians were capable of !