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Re: What is masjid Al Haram
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2017, 04:06:23 PM »
Read the Tawrat, Zabur and Injeel, and then the Quran.

The Forbidden Temple is the Holy Temple of God which should only be visited by the Priests of God and the family Levi who needs to guard it. Thats why it is forbidden, even the Levites are forbidden to enter the Holy of Holies, except just 1 choosen Priest and just 1 time in a whole Year!

Read the Tauwrat, Zabur and Indjeel.

The Tabernacle of Moses, The Temple of Solomon etc. All clearly explained and the details of the building how they should be build inch for inch very detailed and explained therein.

Its weird why the Quran doesnt contain explenations and details of this weird building in Jerusalem on the Temple Mount of Zion. And where do we find details of this building in todays so called Mecca?

The Governments are playing a trick with the sheeps and people. They mix the Holy Books of God with their invented hadiths and books to misguide people to horde wealth, power and influence in the land.

What Saudi Arabia did is just insane.

They claimed the Holy Mount of Zion which is described in the Books, Zabur, Tawrat and Indjeel.

They build a "mosque", and called it " masdjid al aqsa" and gave it to Jordan because of political reasons..

May God open our eyes.

Its our own fault. We do not read the Quran. The average "Muslim" doesnt even complete its reading from cover to cover. They are like a voice recorder, not thinking about it, not pondering etc.

Then again, there is another problem, we do not read the Previous Scriptures at all. How are we going to understand the Quran correctly. Hadj, Salat etc. Are all described in detail in the Previous Holy Books. Thats why God told us to believe in the Books.

Really, we are sleeping, a deep sleep. Just very few are awake and working in the day.
Why forbid what God hasn't forbidden? You're forbidding people from visiting the Sacred Temple.
Birdy, you can visit the Sacred Temple anytime, and commune there.

2:125     
And it was so, that We have made the Sanctum to be a model for
the people and a sanctuary. And you shall take, from the station of
Abraham, a place of communion.
And We entrusted to Abraham
and  Ishmael:  “You  shall  purify  My  Sanctum  for  those  who  visit, 
and those who are devoted, and the kneeling, the prostrating.”

The Sacred Temple is in Jerusalem/Bakk'a.

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Re: What is masjid Al Haram
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2017, 04:16:34 PM »
Why forbid what God hasn't forbidden? You're forbidding people from visiting the Sacred Temple.
Birdy, you can visit the Sacred Temple anytime, and commune there.

2:125     
And it was so, that We have made the Sanctum to be a model for
the people and a sanctuary. And you shall take, from the station of
Abraham, a place of communion.
And We entrusted to Abraham
and  Ishmael:  “You  shall  purify  My  Sanctum  for  those  who  visit, 
and those who are devoted, and the kneeling, the prostrating.”

The Sacred Temple is in Jerusalem/Bakk'a.

Its in Jerusalem, on Mount Zion.

There is no earthly physical Temple anymore. It was destroyed after Jesus going up to Heaven.

There might come a next one. Exactly at the place in Jerusalem, on Mount Zion.

Where the so called Masdjid Al Aqsa is, which i understand is the Heavenly Temple of God in Heaven. And the Masdjid al Haram the earthly.

Thats when the Dajjal will take place, and after that Jesus will return on earth.

I have read about the Dajjal and Jesus returning in the flesh in the Injeel.

There is still a vision, in the Previous Scriptures, of Prophet Ezechiel, where there are discriptions of a Temple, thats the One that they want to build. And thats when the Dajjal will take place and declare himself God, after that the Messiah will return to earth, then 1000 years of Kingship where sicknesses will be cured, the devil will lose much of hes power etc. and after that, the end times will come, people will become crazy, much evil things, end times of humanity etc.

Read the Bible.. You will be shocked on how much you will understand your next reading of the Quran.

You will because you read the Previous Scriptures.

Then you will be shocked again, you will see the big picture.

You will see where the Sunnis stealed the Dajjal idea from. You will see how the Catholics try to divide God in three. You will see who the Pharisees are, who try to cut the Deen in pieces to mix it with their own doctrines etc.

May God guide us.

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Re: What is masjid Al Haram
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2017, 04:24:32 PM »
Its in Jerusalem, on Mount Zion.

There is no earthly physical Temple anymore. It was destroyed after Jesus going up to Heaven.

There might come a next one. Exactly at the place in Jerusalem, on Mount Zion.

Where the so called Masdjid Al Aqsa is, which i understand is the Heavenly Temple of God in Heaven. And the Masdjid al Haram the earthly.

Thats when the Dajjal will take place, and after that Jesus will return on earth.

I have read about the Dajjal and Jesus returning in the flesh in the Injeel.

There is still a vision, in the Previous Scriptures, of Prophet Ezechiel, where there are discriptions of a Temple, thats the One that they want to build. And thats when the Dajjal will take place and declare himself God, after that the Messiah will return to earth, then 1000 years of Kingship where sicknesses will be cured, the devil will lose much of hes power etc. and after that, the end times will come, people will become crazy, much evil things, end times of humanity etc.

Read the Bible.. You will be shocked on how much you will understand your next reading of the Quran.

You will because you read the Previous Scriptures.

Then you will be shocked again, you will see the big picture.

You will see where the Sunnis stealed the Dajjal idea from. You will see how the Catholics try to divide God in three. You will see who the Pharisees are, who try to cut the Deen in pieces to mix it with their own doctrines etc.

May God guide us.
No you're wrong

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Re: What is masjid Al Haram
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2017, 04:32:13 PM »
No you're wrong

Do you have nothing else to say? Are you tired?

I have this information from the Bible and the Quran.

Anyways, i am interested. Why did you call Jerusalem and Bacca the same place?

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Re: What is masjid Al Haram
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2017, 04:43:58 PM »
So after forbidding visiting the Sacred Temple and saying only priests can go, now you say the Temple doesn't exist anymore???
Well if it doesn't exist physically, how did you say no one can visit it except priests????

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Re: What is masjid Al Haram
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2017, 05:04:16 PM »
So after forbidding visiting the Sacred Temple and saying only priests can go, now you say the Temple doesn't exist anymore???
Well if it doesn't exist physically, how did you say no one can visit it except priests????

There is always the One in Heaven.

And there is one on earth if it is build by people.

Thats where the Qiblah is, to the earthly one, with your heart facing the One in Heaven.

If there is none on earth, because being destroyed, because of the sins of people, then there is always the One in Heaven to face to.

There is One family that is being its guardians. The family of Levi. Only they can serve work in the Temple. Because God choose them.

You and i are to busy with other things.

Anyways, read the Tauwrat, Zabur and Indjeel for yourself.

I am not making this up.

There is just 1 priest who may enter the Holy of Holies, once a year, there is a ritual, which ends in praying for us because of our sins etc.

I am not talking about the surroundings of the Temple.

I am talking about the inner compounds.

We shave our hear, go to it, and give an offer, a sheep, and go our own way.

Just read the Previous Scriptures. God told you to believe in them.

Its the same Temple. All details of how it should be build are in the Books. Moses had the same fundamental Temple, Solomon, and in the time of Jesus etc. There is 1 Temple that either is been build on earth or destroyed, and there is always the One in Heaven, where Jesus is the Priest.

Everything will make sense if you start reading the Previous Revelations.

Salat is described, Hadj, etc.


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Re: What is masjid Al Haram
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2017, 05:18:52 PM »
There is always the One in Heaven.

And there is one on earth if it is build by people.

Thats where the Qiblah is, to the earthly one, with your heart facing the One in Heaven.

If there is none on earth, because being destroyed, because of the sins of people, then there is always the One in Heaven to face to.

There is One family that is being its guardians. The family of Levi. Only they can serve work in the Temple. Because God choose them.

You and i are to busy with other things.

Anyways, read the Tauwrat, Zabur and Indjeel for yourself.

I am not making this up.

There is just 1 priest who may enter the Holy of Holies, once a year, there is a ritual, which ends in praying for us because of our sins etc.

I am not talking about the surroundings of the Temple.

I am talking about the inner compounds.

We shave our hear, go to it, and give an offer, a sheep, and go our own way.

Just read the Previous Scriptures. God told you to believe in them.

Its the same Temple. All details of how it should be build are in the Books. Moses had the same fundamental Temple, Solomon, and in the time of Jesus etc. There is 1 Temple that either is been build on earth or destroyed, and there is always the One in Heaven, where Jesus is the Priest.

Everything will make sense if you start reading the Previous Revelations.

Salat is described, Hadj, etc.
Quran suffices, thank you

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Re: What is masjid Al Haram
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2017, 05:28:24 PM »
Quran suffices, thank you

You talk to much.

There is a reason why God told you to believe in the Books and the Prophets.

There is a reason why God told us the people of the Book to uphold the Tora and the Injeel.

At least believe in those quranic verses and follow them, if you want claim you are following the Quran.

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Re: What is masjid Al Haram
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2017, 04:20:17 PM »
Peace with you all,

Submitter: tank you for your advise to go to Hajj, every one can go who wills.
STP: yes we must read previous scriptures and in the original language. The same is with Quran, we should understand it in its old arabic language which was spoken in the time of revelation. But the language has changed,that is a natural process. 
Masjid al Aqsa (distant shrine) is build after prophet Mohammed, take a look for that and proof yourself.

Quran is not a book of mystic or a puzzle book but a detailed book. A book should be red as a book so Quran too. If one reads a book, take any, it would be aspected for a fluent reading/understanding, and it doesn't matter what for book does one read -depends on the topic, reading level of the reader etc. So if the author of a book is not by all means or he/she is schizophrenic or has some other mental disease or..or.., then it is possible he/she will write a confused text which will be very hard to puzzle and digest it.
If we read a manual how to perform smth. we expect clear and detailed information about. Or a history book narrating and teaching us past.
God knows the best how to express what it wants to say and is not confused to declare what it wants. God forgets nothing and also did not forget to tell the details.

The interpretation of Quran is in my opinion the main issue which brings dispute primary btw. people in muslim world.
Masjid al Haram means in arabic forbidden Masjid/Temple. There is no sacred because haram  means haram. If is it arabic Quran why should I translate haram as sacred like it means in Persian.
Why should be prayed in this direction if God is every where. My understanding is to turn to God and his given instruction given in Quran-to submit.
How am I secure if I enter the area in Mekka ... illogical called Gods Haus? That isn't logical by all means.
I am secure by God when I submit to it and its decrees thus I'm on the safe side doesn't matter what happens.



Peace
God bless you all.