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Started by Makaveli, July 16, 2017, 09:18:42 PM

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Aries

Quote from: Makaveli on July 16, 2017, 09:18:42 PM

So what are you thoughts on 'plurality' of God


Peace.

Peace,

I think if you read deeper Quran confirms the oneness and uniqueness of God
Quote from: SeekingThePrayer on August 11, 2017, 06:16:52 PM
The Gospel is Originally written in Aramaic.

The Greek is a translation, like the English.


Peace

Nope  :nope:

Matthew wrote himself in Greek

The only original text found in aramaic is the Peshitta text, if you consider it an original.
You are talking as if there were only the known canonical gospels, while they were hundreds in very different languages (coptic, aramaic, hebrew, etc.).

God bless you all  :peace:



Aries

Peace,

this is absolutely out of topic but...

Quote from: SeekingThePrayer on August 12, 2017, 06:36:00 AM
Many say it is Greek and do not do their research because they do not know and do not want to learn a word of Greek.
Paul is originally Greek, only a bad translator like him would have made such grammar mistakes and still get into the Gospel canon  :rotfl:

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Does that mean that it is Greek? Just because many say it?
Obviously many of the greek words are an attempt to translate from other languages, that is obvious. That does not mean the Greek you have is a translation in whole. Have you ever heard of neologisms?

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I can tell you that the Greek texts, because there is not 1 majority of Greek texts, but many different ones, are a translation of the Original Aramaic text.
You can say whatever you want, other thing is if you can prove it

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Look at the Aramaic text, there is 1 majority.
You have the "original" aramaic text and the whole world is searching for it since ancient times?  :hypno:

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Look at the Greek text, there are many differences, Nestle Aland, Westcott and Hort, Texstus Receptus, Alexandrian text, Antioch text, Byzantine text etc.

They are still changing the Greek text up to today. If its Originaly Greek, then why would they need to change it? No, because the Greek is a translation of the Aramaic.
there is not any original, but  hundreds of versions just because Jesus never wrote himself so everything is third party accounts about his supposed existence. That leads to necessary text reconstruction and many versions in many languages. Whatever you find in whatever language you find it is not any original becase, simply, everything are accounts of supposed witnesses.

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People spoke Greek in that time, but it is not the mother language of the Jews and Christians. Greek was a language of the Western people..

:brickwall:
Even runninglikezebras would agree with me
Alexander the Great with all the Ptolomaioi must be twisting in their tombs alltogether with the West Roman Empire!


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Even history is clear about it, i am not a fan of history, because many maniplated it. But in that time they spoke Aramaic in that region. In the West they spoke Greek.
I suggest that if you are not a fan, at least stop making claims when you have no idea.

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Anyways, i believe that the Greek is a translation of the Aramaic.

Where is the Hebrew Gospel, or are you just saying such things without any evidence? I did not see a Hebrew Gospel in my life, except a translation of the Aramaic one done recently..

Come one, lets not say such things without any solid believe and evidence.

Its Aramaic. I have done my research and tested my believe.

Which original? There is no original, there are hundreds of (very different by the way) accounts in many languages about the odyssey of some Jesus from Nazaret who never wrote a single word neither intented to. What original then?  Please researc further. in any case I am not suggesting aramaic is not the original language, only there is not an original aramaic text

I suggest this moves to another topic, it is absolutely spoiling a good topic  :peace: