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Pakistani man sentenced to death for insulting Prophet Muhammad

Started by openmind, June 13, 2017, 11:43:05 PM

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reel

No, but if i remember correctly Ibn Taymiyyah did want to make it legal.

Try reading Quran and you will get the full answer. There were many accusations against the Prophet in the Book, but we have not come across any verse telling us to kill the people for it.
"I fear that nothing will lead me to hell more than ḥadīth"-Hadith collector: Shu'ba Ibn al-Ḥajjāj

imrankhawaja

i dnt know what to say..
nobody have a right to take somebody's life

i request to all of you some of the knowledge is dangerous to share so just keep quiet ..

its only traditional people who are extremely emotional in religious matters ..
may God guide them to the right path  :pr

Jafar

This is no difference than Abraham sentenced to death for insulting Marduk

Many centuries has passed yet people mindset of today (on some part of the world) are still pretty much the same.

imrankhawaja

abraham was doing it becoz he was aware that God will protect him ..

a random person should not do it , either negetive approach or positive approach ..

its sure God will not gona look after every tom dick and harry .. so people need to understand that its billions of people so God is not that free to come down and save every single person from wicked people..

people are on their own.. so dnt talk about religion in negetive or positive sense..  even God alone people are at risk..  :&

God have lot of other things to do as stated in sura rehman..

55:29 Those in the heavens and earth ask Him, everyday He is in some matter.

NOTE he did not create this life for reward or punishment so make sure we are at risk as per ch 103
thats why there is pain in this life as well as chilling ..  (rewards and punishment is next chapter after death)

dishonest person is a key to success .. innocent is a fuel for wicked..
confusing part is becoming dishonest will ruin our future and staying innocent wil give us pain and poverty in current life

hahahahha God was right human being is ignorant and foolish so that he took that test..it appears even God was not happy when human being decide to become human being by his so called free will ..
taste the consequence now..


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Maha

Quote from: Jafar on June 14, 2017, 02:46:25 AM
This is no difference than Abraham sentenced to death for insulting Marduk

Many centuries has passed yet people mindset of today (on some part of the world) are still pretty much the same.

Totally agree.

Pakistan's blasphemy law is worthless and should have been abolished long time ago.
''No one has ever made himself great by showing how small someone else is''

openmind

Quote from: Maha on June 14, 2017, 06:52:37 AM
Totally agree.

Pakistan's blasphemy law is worthless and should have been abolished long time ago.
Pakistan's legal system is supposed to be based on Sharia law. So you don't think they got this from any specific text?

Maha

Quote from: openmind on June 14, 2017, 10:58:35 AM
Pakistan's legal system is supposed to be based on Sharia law. So you don't think they got this from any specific text?

No, the blasphemy law that they have today was basically inherited from the time of the British rule, and was for the first many years rather symbolic as most blasphemy laws in Europe are. However, with the Islamization during the dictator rule of Zia Ul Haq in the 1980's some additions were made to the blasphemy law that were now to be taken seriously; one of the additions was that any insult of Muhammad would lead to death penalty. This is not sharia, as its well-known by the hadiths that several people used to mock Muhammad and he would forgive them. However, in Pakistan some evil fools like to show solidarity with Muhammad by killing anyone who they deem to be disrespectful towards him.
''No one has ever made himself great by showing how small someone else is''

Jafar

Quote from: openmind on June 14, 2017, 10:58:35 AM
Pakistan's legal system is supposed to be based on Sharia law. So you don't think they got this from any specific text?

And where does Sharia Law got this from?

imrankhawaja

interesting thing about pakistan law..

if you mock God = death penalty
if you mock prophet muhammad= death penalty
if you mock the founder  of pakistan(quaid-e-azam) = 14 years prison  :rotfl:
if you mock state (riasat) = one year prison...

last two things are not even sharia law..

pakistani law is based on stupidity of mullas nothing else.. it must be revised

a governor "salman taseer" try to abolish this law but his own gaurd killed him ..

freedom of speech is a crime in pakistan..

Jafar

Quote from: imrankhawaja on June 14, 2017, 03:02:44 PM
interesting thing about pakistan law..

if you mock God = death penalty
if you mock prophet muhammad= death penalty

Then is it:
Mock God and prophet muhammad = Killed 2x  :voodoo: :voodoo:
Mock God and prophet muhammad and joining other religion's ritual (church, budhist temple, taoist exercise) = Killed 3x  :voodoo: :voodoo: :voodoo:
Mock God and prophet muhammad and joining other religion's ritual (church, budhist temple, taoist exercise) and then leave the religion of Islam = Killed 4x   :voodoo: :voodoo: :voodoo: :voodoo:



imrankhawaja

Quote from: Jafar on June 14, 2017, 03:42:35 PM
Then is it:
Mock God and prophet muhammad = Killed 2x  :voodoo: :voodoo:
Mock God and prophet muhammad and joining other religion's ritual (church, budhist temple, taoist exercise) = Killed 3x  :voodoo: :voodoo: :voodoo:
Mock God and prophet muhammad and joining other religion's ritual (church, budhist temple, taoist exercise) and then leave the religion of Islam = Killed 4x   :voodoo: :voodoo: :voodoo: :voodoo:


yes its interesting question you asked..

let me tell you law about multiple death penalties..

if somebody found guilty of two,three or four deaths  they will hang him then release him again , then hang him again then release him again...

its called multiple hangs till death.. 

in the final count they hang him till death

same law was practised in saudia it was cruel they chop the head in a way person use sword and hit the sword multiple times untill the head get separated from body..
:& :& :& :&



Zulf

Quote from: imrankhawaja on June 14, 2017, 03:02:44 PM
pakistani law is based on stupidity of mullas nothing else.. it must be revised

a governor "salman taseer" try to abolish this law but his own gaurd killed him ..

It will take a long time since it is a self sustaining system. Nobody dares to change it, due to fear of the consequences of breaking the consensus. Everyone is held in place by fear... fear of each other. Everyone is the prison guard of everyone else. People not only fear what others will think, say and do, but they also fear within themselves.

This is why change will take a looong time to happen. It's natural I guess.
If you name me, you negate me.

imrankhawaja

Quote from: Zulf on June 16, 2017, 03:09:30 PM

This is why change will take a looong time to happen. It's natural I guess.

i dnt think so any change will happen near future ..
system , politics, people, traders, even fruit seller is on the mission to rob eachother..

the system is corrupt from bottom to top.. and thats what they like..

the best business of everything based on religious grounds

if a minister swear of God , people believe in him blindly
if a trader swear of God, people believe in him blindly

the controllers of this country are very clever they know the weakness of people so they are using the name of God as much as they can for making people fool..

even the business of mosques are on its height , every cast is encourged to pay charity to their mosque and projects ..

roughly 20 different flavours of cast/firqa you will see there.. inside rasicm  :rotfl:

so lets wait for the punishment of God ,
God is swift in punishment anyway.. he already destroy lot of nations when the due time come ..
some muslim nations deserve this punishment what i feel..

Jafar

Quote from: imrankhawaja on June 16, 2017, 03:58:30 PM
i dnt think so any change will happen near future ..

Looks like things are relatively better in "Ex Pakistan".
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-punishment-inside-Bangladesh-of-apostasy-in-Islam

Although the islamist are pushing for harsher blasphemy law modeled after Pakistan -> Saudi Arabia -> Medieval Europe
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/south-asia/at-least-15-killed-in-bangladesh-blasphemy-law-protests

And it's neighbor..
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-India-have-religious-blasphemy-laws

For the same 'case' the man might be convicted with light prison term in "Ex Pakistan" or India..

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so lets wait for the punishment of God ,
God is swift in punishment anyway.. he already destroy lot of nations when the due time come ..
some muslim nations deserve this punishment what i feel..

Is it a 'punishment'? or a 'blessing'?

imrankhawaja

Quote from: Jafar on June 16, 2017, 11:12:31 PM
Looks like things are relatively better in "Ex Pakistan".

thats why both these countries of ex pakistan are better than pakistan in economy, science and technology race..

our national poet(iqbal) and founder took this pakistan in the name of "God" and in the end they covered the law of God under tradition , a barbarian tradition our ancestors must be very happy for the sacrifices what they given.

history is witness pakistan was one of the best country untill "zulfikar ali bhutto" but since then the mullahs power favored by a cursed dictator zia ul haq and he forcefully get him hanged in a fake case with the help of military power since then the curse of God is applied to that nation (and this piece of shit "zia ul haq" introduce sharia law instead of God law)

after that he died like a dog .. in plane crash

and every dictator and minister fool this nation and make their bank balances..

even today the so called prime minister nawaz sharif and his family is in panama leaks which is proved by default and they are guilty of corruption of billions..

but public is like cattle , and dictators and politicians are that lucky they are rulling on animals instead of humans ..

Quote from: Jafar on June 16, 2017, 11:12:31 PM
Is it a 'punishment'? or a 'blessing'?

i dnt know really .. for me its a punishment.. becoz due to the system i have to move from my home country to somewhere else , where i can feel the laws of God or atleast laws of human rights..

the laws that is equal for orphan and normal kid
the laws that never get you killed by freedom of speech
the laws in which state is responsible for citizens
the laws in which police is not that easy to buy (eg in pakistan if you go against the traffic rules there is no need to b worry just pay him 50 or 60 rs matter will get sorted)
list is long..

moreover in so called ramadan the prices of fruits and vegetables suddenly rise on the level very high becoz they know everybody is hungry and they will gona buy this so earn on this blessed month :&

the stories of early caliphate robbed in the name of holy war
the current caliphs are legally robbing their own public in the name of schemes..
(its already 1000 years thats why the punishment is due on the wicked)

lets see when this time come i already feel the heat, four prominent traditional nations affected like iraq, syria, palestine and libya.
and now qatar is on list. i hope somewhere in this list pakistan is also written (guesswork)