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What's your opinion of the "Natural republic" book, of the monotheist group?

Started by Ervin, June 09, 2017, 04:37:57 AM

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Ervin

Peace.

I was just wandering, what do you think of the Natural republic book, written by the Monotheist group?

Do you think it's accurate, in what it says?

Thanks
My real name is also Ervin

reel

I didn't know about this book. But after seeing your post, I went to get it. I have to read it first.

https://free-minds.org/sites/default/files/TNR.pdf

Edit: Okay, read a few pages. I think I saw some pieces as articles elsewhere.

But overall, it seems to be cool.


"I fear that nothing will lead me to hell more than ḥadīth"-Hadith collector: Shu'ba Ibn al-Ḥajjāj

Ervin

Peace everyone,

I wanted to revisit this thread and see if there are more people who have read the natural republic and what's your opinion?

Thanks
My real name is also Ervin

progressive1993

10:41 If they deny you, say: "My works are for me, and your works are for you. You are innocent of what I do, and I am innocent of what you do."

Ervin

Peace,

Progressive, what is it that you disagree with the natural republic?

May I specifically ask as to what's everyone s opinion on the Prayer part?

Thanks
My real name is also Ervin

Ervin

Peace.

I wanted to revisit this thread in order  to ask are there any more comments on the natural republic book.

And I would like to invite others who haven?t read it to look into it if they/you wish.

Thanks
My real name is also Ervin

Rilum


tlihawa

Salaam Ervin,
Quote from: Ervin on January 16, 2018, 08:01:43 AM
Peace everyone,

I wanted to revisit this thread and see if there are more people who have read the natural republic and what's your opinion?

Thanks

I just read it fast. At glance it's good. The intention is good.

However it's just like any other "Quranist movement", who exclusively worship the Quran only.

I completely disagree with those Quranists who believe that the Quran is the only road to salvation. They condemned prior books, such as the Taurat and the Injil, as perverted, corrupted and no longer fit for use.

They name themselves the Monotheist Group, but they are essentially just Quran worshippers. Because it contains no other monotheist creed.

The Quran only applies to those whoever it reaches, whether through the family line or other means.

6:19   Say: "Which is the greatest testimony <shahādatan>?" Say: "God is witness between me and you, and He has inspired to me this Qur'an that I may warn you with it and whoever it reaches, that you are bearing witness that with God are other gods!" Say: "I do not bear witness!" Say: "He is only One god, and I am innocent of what you have set up!"

Are you feeling lucky? Are you God's chosen one to receive the only authentic book and the only road to salvation? Were other humans created by God apart from you and your group, only to end up in hell because they were given a tainted book? Is it really their fault?

The exclusive Quranist merely repeats the errors of the people of the books, who were exclusive and fanatical in their views.

2:111 And they said: "None shall enter Paradise except those who are Jews or Nazarenes;" this is what they wish! Say: "Bring forth your proof if you are truthful."

Look at the Quranists now, they say and behave like the Jews and Christians... none will enter the paradise  except the Quranists.. but they have no proof.

If a Quranist manage to enter paradise, it does not mean that those who do not follow Quran will not be able to. Heaven is not an exclusive place for their people.

To find the truth, one must strive inside his/her beliefs regardless the book that reaches him/her. Sunni/Shia become open-minded Quranist, Christian become true monotheistic Injil follower  Jews become true monotheistic Taurat follower..and so on

15:9   Indeed it is We who have sent down the reminder, and indeed it is We who will preserve it.

Because Allah preserve His reminder. Taurat and Injil are also God's reminders. Taurat, Injil and Quran may have several versions. but God's messages that can save people from the fires of hell are preserved in it.

That's justice.

Blade

Quote from: Ervin on January 28, 2018, 08:20:01 AM
Peace,

Progressive, what is it that you disagree with the natural republic?

May I specifically ask as to what's everyone s opinion on the Prayer part?

Thanks

Salaam Ervin

The book try to say there are 3 Salaat.  This part of the book is false.  There are 5 Salaat that is supported in the Qur'aan.