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Re: Spider's house
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2017, 03:50:21 AM »
I didn't told that you're blind and you're following non-Muslims. I said that those who can't see obvious are blind and most of translators/commentators followed (are following) dictionaries from non-Muslims or their followers. It's nothing unexpected, we all are getting guidance from sources we're accepting as legit. I tried to warn others on that, because I was doing same in most cases and I know what I'm talking about.

I said "take it as Ibn 'Arebi's visions if it's easier for you", which meant: if you can't understand reality which I tried to tell. The reality is that ONLY Allah swt can explain the Qur'an.

What I said about "truth" (s-d-q) is that my intention was not to come with evidencies outside this ayet, I just wanted to come with its reality (h-q-q), which is "beyt" = "a family". If you need proves you can ask for them, or if you think that it's illusion (batil) you have to come with proves for that. Otherwise, your words are empty, if you're not blind.
You already gave in your OP your waterproof evidence:

"I hope that this example will be clear proof, even for those who're near to be totally blind.
The real (haqq) meaning of this word is "family" and this ayet is talking that weakest of families is spider's. Why?
Because most of spiders are eaten after or during sexual intercourse, trying to "take" a family.
(note: FM translation for اتَّخَذُوا is "take" and for the same word in the same ayet اتَّخَذَتْ is "makes")

Please check all ayets with word "beyt" in any form and think about them. I hope Allah swt will explain to us a lot in them.
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in combination with

"Allah swt told me so."


One of the most brilliant proofs I've ever seen  :yes
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Re: Spider's house
« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2017, 04:06:19 AM »
I'd really like to know your frequency, maybe different kind of light can help.

Have you noticed in text you quoted "outside this ayet"? I told, if you need further evidencies, to check all ayets with "beyt".
But, if you are so blind, ask and I can tell you how "logic" works in all ayets. I can't explain them to you, but I can tell you where to look. So, if you're not blind you'll see for sure.

If your motive was what I told about dictionaries/lexicons then I'm sorry, I can't talk what you like to hear. If you're satisfied that "taqwa" has root waw-qaf-ya, I really can't help.

In case you don't need help to see and you don't wanna share your own opinion about the word "beyt", I won't further answer your comments about this topic.
There cannot be both opinion and knowledge
of the same thing at the same time

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Re: Spider's house
« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2017, 04:06:54 AM »
Even if Allah told you so, what do you gain from that?
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Re: Spider's house
« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2017, 04:09:15 AM »
Even if Allah told you so, what do you gain from that?
For example, I know that in case I wanna divorce my wife I have to keep her close to her family (not her house) during 'iddet. This means that I should let her be with her kids, not just locked in one of rooms.
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Re: Spider's house
« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2017, 04:23:22 AM »
And that is not common sense?
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Re: Spider's house
« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2017, 04:26:41 AM »
Peace,

Beyt is a house, the word goes back pretty far, just look at the pictogram B ב especially in ancient forms it's clearly a house. Hence the preposition b- in Hebrew, Arabic means in, with, etc because a house is where you keep things
What could i say that is better than what God has already informed us of?
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Re: Spider's house
« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2017, 04:39:48 AM »
Peace,

Beyt is a house, the word goes back pretty far, just look at the pictogram B ב especially in ancient forms it's clearly a house. Hence the preposition b- in Hebrew, Arabic means in, with, etc because a house is where you keep things
I hope that if I tell you that Hebrew and Arabic are not lisan of the Qur'an and their rules are men(and jinns)-made will be enough for you at least to think about it.

"a house is where you keep things" is from some lexicon, isn't it?

MoF, no, it's from the Qur'an. I don't see "common sense" as a solid huden.
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Re: Spider's house
« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2017, 06:54:06 AM »
I'd really like to know your frequency, maybe different kind of light can help.

Have you noticed in text you quoted "outside this ayet"? I told, if you need further evidencies, to check all ayets with "beyt".
But, if you are so blind, ask and I can tell you how "logic" works in all ayets. I can't explain them to you, but I can tell you where to look. So, if you're not blind you'll see for sure.

If your motive was what I told about dictionaries/lexicons then I'm sorry, I can't talk what you like to hear. If you're satisfied that "taqwa" has root waw-qaf-ya, I really can't help.
My motive/frequency/whatever is that you bring a lot of nonsense and present that as truth with nonsense evidence, besides that you call people who do not believe in your nonsense blind ones and affected with non-muslim interpretations.


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In case you don't need help to see and you don't wanna share your own opinion about the word "beyt", I won't further answer your comments about this topic.
My opinion about the word beyt is that it does not mean family, check the other ayats to see for yourself. And besides that Allah swt told me so in a Ibn 'Arebi's "vision"  but don't make the mistake now to think I had visions,  I'm not Saul/Paul nor Ibn 'Arebi. I just understood something which was explained to me.

there is no obligation to answer my questions.
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Re: Spider's house
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2017, 07:25:43 AM »
I hope that if I tell you that Hebrew and Arabic are not lisan of the Qur'an and their rules are men(and jinns)-made will be enough for you at least to think about it.

"a house is where you keep things" is from some lexicon, isn't it?

MoF, no, it's from the Qur'an. I don't see "common sense" as a solid huden.

Common sense is what is obvious without saying, and what is obviously sensible is clearly guidance.
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Re: Spider's house
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2017, 07:29:35 AM »
Peace,

Beyt is a house, the word goes back pretty far, just look at the pictogram B ב especially in ancient forms it's clearly a house. Hence the preposition b- in Hebrew, Arabic means in, with, etc because a house is where you keep things

Beyet is not necessarily a physical object. It can refer to the foundation of something.

In the case of Abraham, he established the first assembly for the people, this is what the ancient Arabic wishes to say.

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