Quote from: kaltun on December 15, 2018, 11:28:57 AM
i read it , and again .... but didnt get you... its me that dont understand your grammer explanation ..... sorry
assuming and fact are not the same ....
i know its diificult to understand sometimes thats y most of the times i have to explain them in reality only if they use common sense it will save my time explaining them .
anyway i m not assuming i m telling you a specific tone.
now see how i assume all those things obviously ( by a post mortom report)
all situation changed now

post mortem report shows me he got torture, iron on his skin etc etc the signs of ropes are also there and ti summarise all of it i say NOT onlt they kiddnapped him but ALSO killed him.
coming back to your original question ?
you said quran did not mention about NORTH and SOUTH
i said but quran mention something else masharqeen and magharbeen as well as mashriq and magrib ?
now its your duty to see and read all cosmos and spinning of celestial bodies to see what does author want to tell the audience of seventh century ?
Easts and Wests hahahaha
i just remeber people like you when u find NORTH and SOUTH in quran or anything you will say why there is not mention of south-east ? where is north west? where is west midlands?
anyway have a good day.
EDIT
i just saw this of your quote
so , if its same word , why do we get different translations??i dunno brother why we have different translations. but i can understand everybody have their own methods of translations.
so why not u make your own translation they use the same method what u will gona use so better trust yourself instead of blindly trust on interpretation.
roughly 15 to 20 years keep in your mind if your native is not arabic