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The Book of Moses, a beacon and a mercy.

Started by Adam The Warner, November 05, 2016, 07:03:29 PM

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Adam The Warner

An English translation of the Quran - 11:17 For those who are on a clarity from their Lord, and are followed by a testimony from Him; and before it was the Book of Moses, a beacon and a mercy; they will believe in it. And whoever rejects it from among the Confederates, then the Fire is his meeting place. So do not be in any doubt about it. It is the truth from your Lord, but most of the people do not believe.

11:18 And who is more wicked than he who invents lies about God? They will be displayed before their Lord, and the witnesses will say: "These are the ones who have lied about their Lord." Alas, the curse of God will be upon the wicked.

Why does God tell us that whoever rejects it from among the Confederates that they will have the Fire as their meeting place? Why does God tell us that those who are on a clarity of their Lord that they will believe in it and why do some forum members here tell us that we should disbelieve and reject it?
What argument do you have after the word of God who told us that it's the truth from Him, and the most of the people do not believe? At least respect others who do believe, since there is no compulsion in the system. At least do not invent lies about God!
Stop misguiding others by telling them that the Torah does contain errors, because you are lieing and can not even read the Hebrew Torah. The word of God is perfect, and it's He who protects the Reminder. Really, do you want me to become a witness against you?

An English translation of the Quran - 11:19 Those who repel others from the path of God and they seek to twist it; and regarding the Herafter they are in denial.

11:23 Those who believe and do good works, and are humble towards their Lord; they are the dwellers of Paradise, in it they will remain.
May He the Hearer grant us victory in the worldy life, and Hes abundance of Light on the Day of Judgement, and may He the King of kings grant us the eternal Paradise. Peace.

Furqan

Salam

Brother your problem is you are ASSUMING in between ayaat and placing your "assumptions" in between.
What's so hard to understand that"this book from BEFORE was Musa's book", and AFTER was given to Muhammad

Adam The Warner

Quote from: Furqan on November 08, 2016, 01:30:13 PM
Salam

Brother your problem is you are ASSUMING in between ayaat and placing your "assumptions" in between.
What's so hard to understand that"this book from BEFORE was Musa's book", and AFTER was given to Muhammad

An English translation of the Quran - 3:84 Say: "We believe in God and what was sent down to us and what was sent down to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Patriarchs, and what was given to Moses and Jesus and the prophets from their Lord. We do not make a distinction between any of them, and to Him we submit."

An English translation of the Quran - 2:285 The messenger believes in what was sent down to him from his Lord; and the believers, all who believe in God, and His angels, and His Books, and His messengers: "We do not make a distinction between any of His messengers;" and they said: "We hear and obey, forgive us our Lord, and to you is our destiny."
May He the Hearer grant us victory in the worldy life, and Hes abundance of Light on the Day of Judgement, and may He the King of kings grant us the eternal Paradise. Peace.

hanslan

i have not seen any book passed down from Moses. 

Anyway this forum is about discovering true islam according to the Quran and only the Quran. 
Obviously sectarian teachings are excluded if not consistent with Quran And old teachings that are no longer relevant today.

So stop wasting preaching about old teachings that have been superseded. 

All relevant teachings are carried forward in the Quran.  There is nothing left outside of Quran for self redemption to the next life - all inclusive.




huruf

Quote from: hanslan on November 11, 2016, 02:03:33 AM
i have not seen any book passed down from Moses. 

Anyway this forum is about discovering true islam according to the Quran and only the Quran. 
Obviously sectarian teachings are excluded if not consistent with Quran And old teachings that are no longer relevant today.

So stop wasting preaching about old teachings that have been superseded. 

All relevant teachings are carried forward in the Quran.  There is nothing left outside of Quran for self redemption to the next life - all inclusive.

Indeed. But it seems that for certain political purposes the bible lends itself much better and can also be used to make the Qur'an support those certain political purposes.

Salaam

Man of Faith

Yes who is as wicked as to invent lies about allah?
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Adam The Warner

Quote from: Man of Faith on November 11, 2016, 01:55:04 PM
Yes who is as wicked as to invent lies about allah?


An English translation of the Quran - 5:47 And let the people of the Gospel judge with what God has sent down in it. And whoever does not judge with what God has sent down, then these are the wicked.

An English translation of the Gospel - Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

May He the Hearer grant us victory in the worldy life, and Hes abundance of Light on the Day of Judgement, and may He the King of kings grant us the eternal Paradise. Peace.

Man of Faith

Strange the law varies over time and in one revelation association with God is okay and in the other it is not okay.

And I am okay to follow the Gospel according to you and I gladly do so.  I have grown up in a Christian country and the Biblical Gospels make much sense to me so I may as well follow it and ignore Quran. I am aiming to be a "child of God".

But I do reject the Christian clergy and I never accepted them. Their explanation of the essence of Christ's teachings is just blabbering. If it was 200 years ago I would have needed to hold that opinion to myself or be executed for blasphemy, but nowadays it is okay.

However I do follow the scripture you call Quran, but the way I interpret it.

Be well
Amenuel
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