UNLAWFUL SEX?

[huruf]

It is because the mechanism of peacefulnes is disturbed that hre i divorce, not the ther way around.

It is no favour to the children to live in the middle of hotility or ill treatment.

The Qur'an no only dmits divorce but says that God will provide for both

4.130. But if they separate [by divorce], Allah will enrich each [of them] from His abundance. And ever is Allah Encompassing and Wise.

[Man of Faith]

Timotheus,

Allows is not the same as saying it is any good. Marriage is a permanent union so one cannot "jump around" among partners as desired, and breaking the union is obviously not an optimal scenario. It would require misconditions to be acceptable by God such as abuse towards a woman in the relationship. A marriage is nothing to be taken lightly and if you think so I suppose you might consider what you yourself find rational. Divorce is failure in all cases, but it might be a necessary evil in the case where abuse has occurred and the positive impact of divorce outweighs the negative.

Be well
Amenuel

[huruf]

Divorce is the proper way of ending a matrimonial relationship. God does not formulate a single objection to that. All He does  is inruct that it must be done in all fairness and loyalty and He provides for it wihout pointing to guilt.

It is surprising how some people tend to disparage against divorce as if it was a sin or a whim or something shameful while in the Qur'an there are instructions to solve problems within marriages but there is not comment negative for divorce at all, and as we have seen God has no rebukes for the divorcees but, quite the opposite, promises his provision for both of them. He does not seem to be as much offended by divorce as some societies which seem to be very upset by divorce but can put up with far more revolting things.
May be God knows that the people who go through it are far mor in need of encouragement than of criticism.

Salaam

[Man of Faith]

I know what you mean, huruf. It is also seldom an easy thing to go through a divorce if one feels this is a necessity.

Be well
Amenuel

[wrkmmn]

Peace:

comrox:

Where do you derive your understanding that when a partner becomes a disbeliever, a divorce must take place?

your words tell me that you are not even Muslim, Peace woman, I do not seek the ignorant, and God dislikes idle talk.

Timotheus:

you said this: "God says in Quran that those who already call themselves muslim will be more willing to listen" where is this in the quran?

30:53And you cannot guide the blind away from their error. You will only make hear those who believe in Our verses so they are Muslims(submitted ones). However, you have to understand that there are some that have submitted(muslims) to God in obedience through the Torah  from the Jews(very few, they are cursed), and from the Nazarenes(which many interpret as christian). Check, my post True christians and jews according to Quran.

maybe i am misunderstanding, but does this statement not answer its self? they are divorcing because there are not interacting with the opposite sex.. i.e not talking to each other.

in the west we interact with the opposite sex since we are born, and for many sex is like eating, from around the age of 13. So, if they have the highest divorce rate is not for lack of interaction between sexes. But because their relationships begins always begin acting/lying to each other, and when they get tire of acting, they show their real self, and they divorce. How can they have a good communication if everything is lies. They are people that live by their desires, and their desires constantly change, thus, marriage is not for them.

Peace.

[wrkmmn]

More verses:

4:23 Forbidden to you are your mothers, and your daughters, and your sisters, and your aunts paternal and maternal, and a brother's daughters, and a sister's daughters; and your milk-mothers, and your milk-sisters; and the mothers of your wives; and your step-daughters - who are your foster children - born of your wives with whom you have consummated your marriage; but if you have not consummated your marriage, you will incur no sin [by marrying their daughters]; and [forbidden to you are] the spouses of the sons who have sprung from your loins; and [you are forbidden] to have two sisters [as your wives] at one and the same time - but what is past is past: for, behold, God is indeed much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace.
4:24 And all married women other than those whom you rightfully possess [through
wedlock]: this is God's ordinance, binding upon you. But lawful to you are all [women] beyond these, for you to seek out, offering them of your possessions, taking them in honest wedlock, and not in fornication. And unto those with whom you desire to enjoy marriage, you shall give the dowers due to them; but you will incur no sin if, after [having agreed upon] this lawful due, you freely agree with one another upon anything [else]: behold, God is indeed all-knowing, wise.

The phrase in 4:24, ?     إِلاَّ  except   مَا what    مَلَكْتَ owns    أَيْمَانُكُمْ  your right hands/ oats /covenants  ,? does not seem to mean that it is lawful to have sex slaves. Those perverted interpretations always create many contradictions in the books. Even the Torah says that if a man is attracted to his slave he can take her as his wife, or marry her to his son, and, beyond the corruption, it does not seem to allow sex slaves. The phrase in 4:24 seems to mean wives to whom a man is legally married, and he is not retaining by force, from those 4:23 and 4:24 describe as forbidden. This, being applicable only when the law was revealed, or when a man becomes Muslim and his wife is one of those cases, because ?but what is past is past: for, behold, God is indeed much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace.?

May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom

[Comrox]

Peace,

Peace:

comrox: your words tell me that you are not even Muslim, Peace woman, I do not seek the ignorant, and God dislikes idle talk.

K. Have a good day wrkmmn

[wrkmmn]

Peace:

To recognize the beauty on women is one thing, but not being able to control sexual desires and machinations when looking at women seems to be the beginning stages of a rapist. And, once the disease of such person worsens, not even children will be safe around him.
The book says that God turns those who do not believe into apes and pigs, and there are many here that resemble the Bonobo ape, whose life revolves around sex.

Many snakes are given the ability to climb, and they can be found near the nesting birds of heaven, yet that is not their natural habitat, and they are there only to eat the newly hatching birds.

I guess the conjecturers have forgotten about my warnings, and they are back wasting my post with their idle/ vain talk. nothing of essence, but only their excrement.

51:10 Accursed be the conjecturers

[Man of Faith]

No one becomes an ape when they already are (in) one. The question is if you keep it under control or not.