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An essay: Who created God?

Started by Taro Hiroshi, June 03, 2016, 08:33:38 PM

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The Sardar

Quote from: good logic on June 28, 2016, 09:04:27 PM
Peace Bender,The Sardar.

Richard Dawkins now believes in Intelligent design!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ca5_1226724281

God bless .
Peace.
Seems Dawkins supporters disagree with you. Not me by the way im a muslim monotheist so i acknowleged God as the Lord of the Worlds.

Man of Faith

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The way the "Semites" portrayed / see their God is Illogical..

You better change that into deluded clerics and scholars. The understanding of faith by insightful ones such as Moses and Jesus was very different and they were S(h)emites too.
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Jafar

Quote from: Man of Faith on June 29, 2016, 04:33:16 AM
You better change that into deluded clerics and scholars. The understanding of faith by insightful ones such as Moses and Jesus was very different and they were S(h)emites too.

Of course there are always diamonds among the mud..
I'm not sure about Moses though.. never met him in person.. and he think he's having a conversation with God (if the semitic legend is true)

Deluded Clerics, Scholars and their fanatic followers of "Semitic God" who viewed God as if it's a human..


Bender

Quote from: good logic on June 28, 2016, 09:04:27 PM
Peace Bender,The Sardar.

Richard Dawkins now believes in Intelligent design!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ca5_1226724281

God bless .
Peace.


Hi GL,

Not really. He believes there might have been an ID some long time ago somewhere in the universe who might have brought this all to existence.
And this ID-er(s) came in to exsistense by evolution.
This makes absolutely no sense as his whole theory is taking place in a universe. From where did that universe came from?


Quote from: Novice on June 28, 2016, 11:11:07 PM
Salaam Bender

That is the fundamental question? Do we know what God is? We cannot compare Him with any creation.

لَيۡسَ كَمِثۡلِهِۦ شَىۡءٌ۬‌ۖ

Nothing is like Him (42:11)

وَلَمۡ يَكُن لَّهُ ۥ ڪُفُوًا أَحَدٌ

And nothing is equivalent to Him. 112:4



Salaam Novice,

I believe we can know more about Him but the difficulty is that we quickly make images in our mind to comprehend it.
If I say God is The Creator, a lot of people will see some creature in their mind who is creating something. But that is wrong.
God never said He is a creature who creates, but "simply" that He is The Creator.

Quote from: Jafar on June 29, 2016, 06:50:09 AM
Of course there are always diamonds among the mud..
I'm not sure about Moses though.. never met him in person.. and he think he's having a conversation with God (if the semitic legend is true)

Deluded Clerics, Scholars and their fanatic followers of "Semitic God" who viewed God as if it's a human..

In a post of you some weeks ago you said that you can see, feel and hear God.
Looks almost that you see Him also as a human.
Alhamdu lillahi rabbi al-alameen

imrankhawaja

creature is also derived from create or he been created ... God is not a creature or anything ... what can be imagineable...

if God is uncreated by default we cannot assign anything wordy to him... to explain his nature..

everybody must have some imagination regarding God , but whatever we imagine comes up through the interpretation of our view of eye sight . like light, sound, human, mountain ,sun moon star. whatever . before watching the far side of moon people just can imagine whats there once it explored it can be thinkable..  . for sure whatever we imagine about God its just imagination nothing else. infact how can we think, understand  or imagine something which we have no knowledge off..

there is nothing like God

no eye can grasp the image of God while he can grasp the image of everything...

I also have imagination which first  time I m going to share but I know its just imagination...

what  I imagine is the source of everything whatever is in heavens and earth , a force that governs all the sources and control it without requiring anything else from anyother source all the source time space and whatever we have no knowledge off is under his command and he generates all the things from himself while he himself generate from nothing ...
its actually confusing I cannot explain it even the way I think in my mind,, and after all I know its also an imagination , the highness of God is much more than what we even think...

peace

good logic

Peace Bender ,The Sardar.

To some  what is Intelligent designer?

Anyhow ,they keep running from the truth!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJoOhbf3_Ts

The Creator has left clear signs.
GOD bless.
Peace.
TOTAL LOYALTY TO GOD ALONE.   IN GOD I TRUST
38:65″ Say:? I warn you; There is no other god beside GOD, the One, the Supreme.?
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Novice

Quote from: Bender on June 29, 2016, 11:26:30 AM
I believe we can know more about Him but the difficulty is that we quickly make images in our mind to comprehend it.
If I say God is The Creator, a lot of people will see some creature in their mind who is creating something. But that is wrong.
God never said He is a creature who creates, but "simply" that He is The Creator.

Thanks Bender :handshake:

Human being cannot stop imagining about God.


The Sardar

Quote from: Novice on June 29, 2016, 08:26:54 PM
Thanks Bender :handshake:

Human being cannot stop imagining about God.
Nobody can think who God is. Who knows maybe the Lord of the Worlds is much better than we all thought.

Timotheus

Peace,
Alhamdullilah, very good essay.

Some of Gods most beautifull names are;
al-hayy - the ever living, eternal
al-qayoom - the self-subsisting, self-existing
al-khalaq - the creator of all things

i have also been involved in discussions and debates, and generaly this is the others main argument.

to me, the exsistence of God, with all his glorious and beautifull names and attributes is the only possible logical and reasonable conclusion one can make as to why we are here and why Gods creation is made in such a perfect and balanced manner.

as the quran says 'Surely, in the Heavens and the Earth are signs for those who believe'

Pondering Gods creation is one of the big reasons i came to believe in Him, and the Quran, everything is created so perfectly balanced.

Glory be to God, he surely is the Most Great, Most Magnificent, worthy of all praise and worship, the Most Merciful, Most Compassionate
What could i say that is better than what God has already informed us of?
Follow God
Seek His guidance, the only guidance
Glory and Praise be to God, rabbil Aalameen

Bender

Quote from: good logic on June 29, 2016, 06:48:11 PM
Peace Bender ,The Sardar.

To some  what is Intelligent designer?

Anyhow ,they keep running from the truth!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJoOhbf3_Ts

The Creator has left clear signs.
GOD bless.
Peace.

Peace GL,

It doesn't take a scientist to understand what's going on baby, it's just a little crush...
aaarrrrgggghhhh I have that girly song in my head  >:( 
Worst thing is I forgot her name, and I hate to google it, I want to find it on my own  >:(

Sorry I wanted to say this:
It really doesn't take a scientist or science to understand that it's not possible to have a creation without its Creator.


Quote from: Novice on June 29, 2016, 08:26:54 PM
Thanks Bender :handshake:

Human being cannot stop imagining about God.

I don't know for what but you are welcome and you also thanks  :)    :handshake:


Alhamdu lillahi rabbi al-alameen