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Hizbullah

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Re: The Quranic stance on ghosts
« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2016, 02:54:41 AM »
The word rijaal describes a man, a human being in all respects and again this is the same word that Allah used with the jinns because Allah is plainly telling you that the jinns are men, people, human beings, just like you while they exist on the planet earth.

When you read that verse (Qur'aan 72:6) with an open mind, it is clearly and directly telling you that jinns are men, people and not spirits, spooks floating in the air and the evidence of that is the use of the word rijaal in the Holy Qur'aan.  Again note that Allah used the same word rijaal for both us and the jinns because we are both men, people, human beings. You cannot get around this nor try to distort Arabic grammar to conceal the truth like the two last translations you presented by Rashad Khalif and Muhammad Asad.  The real problem or difficulty that you have as to why you cannot see this which is basic context and elementary Arabic is because of your belief system that you have of believing that jinns are invisible spirits.  This form of programming is effecting your ability to see the correct interpretation of that verse (Qur'aan 72:6) that I presented.  Now let me further prove to you what does rijaal means.  I will prove to you using the Qur'aan.  You will see that the way Allah uses the word rijaal, it means: men, people, human beings, human race, etc. and again this is the same identical word that Allah uses for the jinns.  Below is more evidence that I presented in my document:













Now I have proven to you that the jinns are men, people, human beings.  However, since you believe they are invisible spirits, spooks floating in the air while they are in the physical realm, I want you to prove this.  Show us a verse in the Qur'aan while the jinns are on the planet earth that describe them as a ruwh (spirit)?

I also have a question for you, when the Angelic Beings come down on earth are they spirits or are they men?

Salam AlKhidhr

Very interesting.

If you allow me to answer, i believe they are men base from the Quranic verses, which we cannot deny...

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Re: The Quranic stance on ghosts
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2016, 04:33:06 PM »
Yes imrankhawaja, right click the picture, click copy, add the link to
your post, highlight the link, click on the icon that says image,
(on my computer it is between flash and insert hyperlink)
click image and Insha'Allah you will have a picture on your post!


Gotta go   :)


                     

let me try whether it works or not,

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let see i posted a picture of fairy incase if not come, this creature we totally forget.

this is mixed being of beautiiful girl from civilised being and handsome uncivilised being lol just  kidding

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Re: The Quranic stance on ghosts
« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2016, 04:44:04 PM »
aww i tried three times finally works , thanx hawk, its lovely, shoo nice of you.

see i have a gift for you now this fairy like insect is found in england i m not sure its true or false as it is apparently on web based. but its quite interesting.


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its microscopic image though

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Re: The Quranic stance on ghosts
« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2016, 10:55:29 PM »

Salaam Taro Hiroshi

I'm honored that an intelligent brother like your self took the time to read my document on the Jinns exposing Arnold Yasin pseudo interpretation of the scriptures and also thank you for the questions.

As I have discussed in my document on the jinns, I believe that Allah used the word "fire" to denote or to let us know that they are deadly, dangerous, not that there is literally fire in the Spiritual Realm.

I will be happy to respond to your questions below:

"Do you believe that Jinn and Humans belong to the same race?"

At one time, Iblis/Devil/Jinns were in Jannah (Heaven or Spiritual Realm) along with Adam and Hawaa and as we can see in the verse below, Allah placed them on al ard (the planet earth or physical realm):



When they transcended/manifest/incarnated/translated (or what ever term one wants to use) from the Spiritual Realm to the Physical Realm, they (all of them) became physical human beings.  It is important to highlight that grammatically the Jinns in the Qur'aan has always been used in the plural form.  You will never find the word "Jinns" in the singular form.  Also the word devil or satan in Arabic has been used in the singular and the plural form throughout the Qur'aan and this is some of the reasons why they are described as: PEOPLE, MEN, TRIBE, FAMILY, CLAN.  Allah tells us clearly in the Qur'aan that the devil or jinns on the planet earth have a descendant, bloodline, progeny, offspring which further destroys the false Christian belief that they are invisible spirits floating around in the air:



Now to directly answer your question, I do not believe Jinns and Humans belong to the same race.  I believe both Jinns and Humans are RIJAAL (MEN, PEOPLE, HUMAN BEINGS) but they are separate races from each other.  I believe they have their bloodline and we have our bloodline; I believe we are the direct descendants of Adam (Qur'aan 4:1) and the Jinns are a direct descendants of the devil or of themselves (Qur'aan 18:50).  Adam, Hawaa and the devil/jinns came down on al ard (the planet earth) as separate people (Qur'aan 2:36-38).

Qur'aan 4:1
O people, observe your Lord who created you from one being, and created from it its mate, and through them He spread many men and women.  You shall regard Allah in whose name you appeal to one another and the ties of relationship.  Allah is watching over you.

Now I would like to answer your other question:

"Do you believe that Jinn are clans/tribes among humans?"

Yes I believe that Jinns are clans/tribes among humans.

Let me share this verse with you to show how we and the jinns are living among each other and also note that Allah says that He sends US (HUMANS AND JINNS) Messengers (Rusul).  Messengers (Rusul) are men, human beings so this verse further proves that the Jinns are men, people, human beings like us on the planet earth:



I want to present this outline below for the masses of Muslims that may be viewing this post who believes that the Jinns are invisible spirits, spooks floating in the air.  Note that there is not one verse in the Qur'aan that describes the Jinns as a ruwh (spirit) while they are on al ard (the planet earth).  Allah has presented an outline in the Qur'aan and He always describes the devils or Jinns as: MEN, PEOPLE, HUMAN BEING, TRIBE, CLAN, FAMILY WHO ALSO HAVE A DESCENDANT, BLOODLINE, OFFSPRING, PROGENY but never as a spirit:



As Salaamu Alaykum

The Sunni sect breaks fast for Ramadaan at the wrong time which is Maghrib (Sunset) and they have no bases at all in the Holy Qur'aan to support this.  However, some Muslims that follow Qur'aan alone has been deceived by the Sunni sect to break fast at Maghrib (Sunset).  Allah has clearly prescribed Al Layl (The Night) for the correct time to break our fast.  It is important that we follow the Qur'aan alone and not sectarian schools of thought or man-made innovations.  For those who are interested in examining the evidence, the facts in the Qur'aan in regards to the correct time to break fast, feel free to download the pdf documents that I wrote.  You can download the document in English or Arabic.

Ramadaan Correct Time To Break Fast (English)
https://app.box.com/s/rs9drthovyr810mqrxxre0f7w3pok24c


Ramadaan Correct Time To Break Fast (Arabic)
https://app.box.com/s/mhaw3ekuq3fqici2lxmj3vr50lwwlo2u

I'M NOT AL KHIDR BUT I'M LEAVING THIS MESSAGE FOR HIM.  HE HAS BEEN BANNED FROM FREEMINDS FORUM SO HE CANNOT LOG IN AND NO LONGER RESPOND.  WHEN HE ATTEMPT TO LOG IN HE GOT THIS MESSAGE:



THE PEOPLE WHO RUN & CONTROL FREEMINDS ARE THREATENED BY HIS KNOWLEDGE.  IF YOU WANT TO CONTACT AL KHIDR, YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE DOCUMENT ON RAMADAAN AND ON THE LAST PAGE YOU WILL FIND HIS EMAIL.

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Re: The Quranic stance on ghosts
« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2016, 11:17:05 PM »
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Re: The Quranic stance on ghosts
« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2016, 03:07:42 PM »
aww i tried three times finally works , thanx hawk, its lovely, shoo nice of you.

see i have a gift for you now this fairy like insect is found in england i m not sure its true or false as it is apparently on web based. but its quite interesting.


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its microscopic image though

I'm glad it worked by Allah's permission, enjoy your new found expression!



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Re: The Quranic stance on ghosts
« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2016, 03:47:41 PM »
I'm glad it worked by Allah's permission, enjoy your new found expression!



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yeh no doubt about it, Allah is the one who drives everything in heaves and earth.

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