I think it is the OP's duty that if he is truly trying to understand a topic in the Quran he should present all the relevant topics and ayaats related. It is very dishonest and unscholarly to present only one ayaat pertaining a topic and expect to have some productive conversation from it. It is naive and shows lack of understanding of Quran.
He should have presented all ayaats related to the word sacred in context of the House/Sanctuary/Mosque. Instead he flashes one ayaat and pretends as if he is confused. Do believers read one ayaat and follow the dini or do they read the entire Quran to seek guidance from their Lord?
Nominal
(1) Adjective
(2:144:14) l-ḥarāmi Al-Haraam فَوَلِّ وَجْهَكَ شَطْرَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ
(2:149:
l-ḥarāmi Al-Haraam وَمِنْ حَيْثُ خَرَجْتَ فَوَلِّ وَجْهَكَ شَطْرَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ
(2:150:
l-ḥarāmi Al-Haraam وَمِنْ حَيْثُ خَرَجْتَ فَوَلِّ وَجْهَكَ شَطْرَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ
(2:191:16) l-ḥarāmi Al-Haraam وَلَا تُقَاتِلُوهُمْ عِنْدَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ حَتَّىٰ يُقَاتِلُوكُمْ فِيهِ
(2:194:2) l-ḥarāmu [the] sacred الشَّهْرُ الْحَرَامُ
(2:194:4) l-ḥarāmi [the] sacred بِالشَّهْرِ الْحَرَامِ وَالْحُرُمَاتُ قِصَاصٌ
(2:196:66) l-ḥarāmi Al-Haraam ذَٰلِكَ لِمَنْ لَمْ يَكُنْ أَهْلُهُ حَاضِرِي الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ
(2:198:17) l-ḥarāmi [the] Sacred فَإِذَا أَفَضْتُمْ مِنْ عَرَفَاتٍ فَاذْكُرُوا اللَّهَ عِنْدَ الْمَشْعَرِ الْحَرَامِ
(2:217:4) l-ḥarāmi [the] sacred يَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الشَّهْرِ الْحَرَامِ قِتَالٍ فِيهِ قُلْ قِتَالٌ فِيهِ كَبِيرٌ
(2:217:18) l-ḥarāmi Al-Haraam وَصَدٌّ عَنْ سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ وَكُفْرٌ بِهِ وَالْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ وَإِخْرَاجُ أَهْلِهِ مِنْهُ أَكْبَرُ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ
(5:2:10) l-ḥarāma the sacred يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تُحِلُّوا شَعَائِرَ اللَّهِ وَلَا الشَّهْرَ الْحَرَامَ
(5:2:18) l-ḥarāma the Sacred وَلَا آمِّينَ الْبَيْتَ الْحَرَامَ يَبْتَغُونَ فَضْلًا مِنْ رَبِّهِمْ وَرِضْوَانًا
(5:2:35) l-ḥarāmi Al-Haraam وَلَا يَجْرِمَنَّكُمْ شَنَآنُ قَوْمٍ أَنْ صَدُّوكُمْ عَنِ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ أَنْ تَعْتَدُوا
(5:97:5) l-ḥarāma the Sacred جَعَلَ اللَّهُ الْكَعْبَةَ الْبَيْتَ الْحَرَامَ قِيَامًا لِلنَّاسِ
(5:97:9) l-ḥarāma [the] sacred وَالشَّهْرَ الْحَرَامَ وَالْهَدْيَ وَالْقَلَائِدَ
(9:5:4) l-ḥurumu the sacred months فَإِذَا انْسَلَخَ الْأَشْهُرُ الْحُرُمُ فَاقْتُلُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدْتُمُوهُمْ
(9:36:18) ḥurumun (are) sacred مِنْهَا أَرْبَعَةٌ حُرُمٌ ذَٰلِكَ الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ
(2) Noun
(5:1:18) ḥurumun (are in) Ihram أُحِلَّتْ لَكُمْ بَهِيمَةُ الْأَنْعَامِ إِلَّا مَا يُتْلَىٰ عَلَيْكُمْ غَيْرَ مُحِلِّي الصَّيْدِ وَأَنْتُمْ حُرُمٌ
(5:95:
ḥurumun (are in) Ihram يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَقْتُلُوا الصَّيْدَ وَأَنْتُمْ حُرُمٌ
(5:96:15) ḥuruman (are in) Ihram وَحُرِّمَ عَلَيْكُمْ صَيْدُ الْبَرِّ مَا دُمْتُمْ حُرُمًا
(8:34:10) l-ḥarāmi Al-Haraam وَمَا لَهُمْ أَلَّا يُعَذِّبَهُمُ اللَّهُ وَهُمْ يَصُدُّونَ عَنِ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ وَمَا كَانُوا أَوْلِيَاءَهُ
(9:7:14) l-ḥarāmi Al-Haraam إِلَّا الَّذِينَ عَاهَدْتُمْ عِنْدَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ فَمَا اسْتَقَامُوا لَكُمْ فَاسْتَقِيمُوا لَهُمْ
(9:19:6) l-ḥarāmi (of) Al-Masjid Al-Haraam أَجَعَلْتُمْ سِقَايَةَ الْحَاجِّ وَعِمَارَةَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ كَمَنْ آمَنَ بِاللَّهِ
(9:28:10) l-ḥarāma Al-Masjid Al-Haraam إِنَّمَا الْمُشْرِكُونَ نَجَسٌ فَلَا يَقْرَبُوا الْمَسْجِدَ الْحَرَامَ بَعْدَ عَامِهِمْ هَٰذَا
(10:59:11) ḥarāman unlawful قُلْ أَرَأَيْتُمْ مَا أَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ مِنْ رِزْقٍ فَجَعَلْتُمْ مِنْهُ حَرَامًا وَحَلَالًا قُلْ آللَّهُ أَذِنَ لَكُمْ
(16:116:10) ḥarāmun (is) forbidden وَلَا تَقُولُوا لِمَا تَصِفُ أَلْسِنَتُكُمُ الْكَذِبَ هَٰذَا حَلَالٌ وَهَٰذَا حَرَامٌ
(17:1:
l-ḥarāmi Al-Masjid Al-Haraam سُبْحَانَ الَّذِي أَسْرَىٰ بِعَبْدِهِ لَيْلًا مِنَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ إِلَى الْمَسْجِدِ الْأَقْصَى
(21:95:1) waḥarāmun And (there is) prohibition وَحَرَامٌ عَلَىٰ قَرْيَةٍ أَهْلَكْنَاهَا أَنَّهُمْ لَا يَرْجِعُونَ
(22:25:9) l-ḥarāmi and Al-Masjid Al-Haraam إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَيَصُدُّونَ عَنْ سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ وَالْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ
(28:57:12) ḥaraman a sanctuary أَوَلَمْ نُمَكِّنْ لَهُمْ حَرَمًا آمِنًا يُجْبَىٰ إِلَيْهِ ثَمَرَاتُ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ
(29:67:5) ḥaraman a Sanctuary أَوَلَمْ يَرَوْا أَنَّا جَعَلْنَا حَرَمًا آمِنًا وَيُتَخَطَّفُ النَّاسُ مِنْ حَوْلِهِمْ
(48:25:7) l-ḥarāmi Al-Masjid Al-Haraam هُمُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَصَدُّوكُمْ عَنِ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ
(48:27:9) l-ḥarāma Al-Masjid Al-Haraam لَتَدْخُلُنَّ الْمَسْجِدَ الْحَرَامَ إِنْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ آمِنِينَ
An in-depth analysis of all these related ayaats will be more productive than the approach taken now.
It will clarify the situation occurring in the city Mekka and prevention of the believers by the polytheists from entering the Sacred Mosque. As well as the commands concerning no violating the sacred months and restraining hands from each other within Mekkah.
I do not fully understand he entire scenario at this point. But I am convinced if we take this approach together and analyze these ayaats and the ayaats around we will be closer to a pure understanding. If we argue about one ayaat we will get nowhere.
OP do your due diligence and study these and present these accordingly then perhaps you won't be so confused anymore
Quote from: Wakas on March 05, 2016, 05:22:17 AM
It says:
فلا so not ىقربوا yaqrabū/approach/near they المسجد al-masjid الحرام al haram بعد after عامهم Aam their year هذا this....... and if you (believers) fear poverty
imperfect
I'm surprised no-one brought up the issue of fearing poverty due not allowing them near al masjid al haram - is it because it cant be explained by conventional understandings so this problem is ignored? Was trading only going on inside the so-called Sacred Mosque? Was there an admission fee to go near it?
I do not understand what difference the issue of trading makes in our understanding of this at. Could you perhaps be more elaborate, so that we may learn that which you know.
To me it is a known fact that the Sacred Mosque/ Sanctuary was a boisterous trading center probably established on well known trade routes, as well as a haven.
28:57
Waqaloo in nattabiAAi alhuda maAAaka nutakhattaf min ardina awa lam numakkin lahum
haraman aminan yujba ilayhi thamaratu kulli shay-in rizqan min ladunna walakinna aktharahum la yaAAlamoona
And they say, "If we follow the guidance with you, we would be swept from our land." Have not We established for them a
sanctuary secure,
are brought to it fruits (of) all things, a provision from Us? But most of them (do) not know.
29:67
Awa lam yaraw anna jaAAalna
haraman aminan wayutakhattafu alnnasu min hawlihim afabialbatili yu/minoona wabiniAAmati Allahi yakfuroona
Do not they see that We have made a
Sanctuary secure while are being taken away the people around them? Then do in the they believe and in (the) Favor (of) Allah they disbelieve?
22:25 Inna allatheena kafaroo wayasuddoona AAan sabeeli Allahi waalmasjidi alharami allathee jaAAalnahu lilnnasi sawaan alAAakifu feehi waalbadi waman yurid feehi bi-ilhadin bithulmin nuthiqhu min AAathabin aleemin
Indeed, those who disbelieved and hinder from (the) way (of) Allah and Al-Masjid Al-Haraam, which We made it for the mankind, equal, (are) the resident therein and the visitor; and whoever intends therein of deviation (or) wrongdoing, We will make him of a punishment painful.
22:26 Wa-ith bawwa/na li-ibraheema makana albayti an la tushrik bee shay-an watahhir baytiya liltta-ifeena waalqa-imeena waalrrukkaAAi alssujoodi
And when We assigned to Ibrahim (the) site (of) the House, "That (do) not associate with Me anything and purify My House for those who circumambulate and those who stand and those who bow, (and) those who prostrate.
14:37 Rabbana innee askantu min thurriyyatee biwadin ghayri thee zarAAin AAinda baytika almuharrami rabbana liyuqeemoo alssalata faijAAal af-idatan mina alnnasi tahwee ilayhim waorzuqhum mina alththamarati laAAallahum yashkuroona
Our Lord! Indeed, I have settled (some) of my offsprings in a valley not with cultivation near Your Sacred House, our Lord! That they may establish the prayers. So make hearts of the men incline towards them,
and provide them with the fruits so that they may be grateful.
