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hafiz04

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Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« on: October 04, 2015, 06:19:13 AM »
I have bought and read Dan Gibson's book and I agree with him that Petra is the actual Holy City of Islam.

Who else?
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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2015, 07:59:18 AM »
I did read this interesting theory online (in the past),
matter of fact is however, there is no such a thing as " the holy city of islm " ! Notwithstanding, the archaic script of the Quran does indicate a "Nabatean" origin indeed. More can be said, but i digress.

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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2015, 09:04:44 AM »

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I've read the book too, quite interesting. It's certainly possible but I still think more proof is needed. The pieces of this obscure puzzle seemingly fit, albeit I doubt the black stone played a part at all and is an object introduced much much later down the history line, say close to the time that cube in present day mecca was built.

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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2018, 08:35:43 AM »
I have not yet read the book, but i have seen the "Sacred City" documentary that can be found on youtube.  Showing the qiblas of the earliest known mosques as all pointing to Petra is compelling and can't be ignored.  I tend to rest on that fact alone. However, when one delves further into the fact that Mecca was and has never been on any trade routes, is devoid of vegetation and has demonstrated a complete lack of archaeological evidence of anything, the case gets all the more compelling.  Mecca could never have been what it has traditionally been held out to be.  That said, in all of my conversations with other Muslims, the fact that this has all escaped them this so many centuries, and the constant need to dismiss any non-Muslim scholarship as a conspiracy to destroy Islam, will always maintain the status quo in thinking. 

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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2018, 11:14:10 AM »
Peace All .
Is this also another fact? :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW0FrgSd80k&t=51s
One should dig deep about these claims and look for solid evidence .
Easy to believe all sorts of "facts".
The same can be said about digging deeper for Dan Gibson s background ,motives and works. Look for  solid "evidence" .
To me ,I have not found any evidence overwhelming? But just plenty of Theories and assumptions .
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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2018, 12:43:42 PM »
good logic,
If Dan Gibson's qibla measurements are correct, i'm sorry, that is compelling and overwhelming.  While the rest may be theory and supposition, if the qibla of the earliest known mosques all pointed to Petra, that requires explanation, in and of itself.  One need not delve into Dan Gibson's alleged personal motives.  Frankly, I am tired of, everytime a non-Muslim tries to produce any sort of scholarship on Islam, Muslims immediately turning the other way and suspecting some sort of conspiracy. 

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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2018, 12:33:53 AM »
peace redsulphar.
I had a look at this claim, no evidence.
This guy also was asking for evidence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUU9LAOQZPk

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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2018, 02:31:07 AM »
Please see this article for an analysis of "qiblah" in Quran:
http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html
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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2018, 07:13:06 AM »
Please see this article for an analysis of "qiblah" in Quran:
http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html
If it's a pysical place

masjid Al Haram in Mecca  is full of polytheist So Allah revealed to you

O you who have believed  indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram( after this, their [final] year).And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise.

(Even though your number are very few you should not fear because if you are 20 you can over come 200 plus Allah will reinforce you with more than 5000 Angels)

House of Allah is ruled by polytheist :rotfl: something need to be done about this , this is a serious matter.