On intuition and false prophets

[FreedomStands]

FreedomStands, how about you focus more on what she says and how you can use it to gain a better understanding about spiritual matters?

Oh I didn't watch the video or whatever, I just clicked the sex article link (I didn't read it), and just noticed she had a big long head in my screen resolution and might have resembled Elvis Presley's daughter a little.

What did she say? Could you summarize it?

It might be easier to hear it from you rather than some long giant head Elvis thing.

Or better yet, why not say your own messages or what resonated with you, and what your interpretation is of what she said and what you believe regardless?

That should be fascinating, since I can't really even have much of a dialogue with her, but I can try to have some sort of intercourse with you.

[Samira1234]

Oh I didn't watch the video or whatever, I just clicked the sex article link (I didn't read it), and just noticed she had a big long head in my screen resolution and might have resembled Elvis Presley's daughter a little.

What did she say? Could you summarize it?

It might be easier to hear it from you rather than some long giant head Elvis thing.

Or better yet, why not say your own messages or what resonated with you, and what your interpretation is of what she said and what you believe regardless?

That should be fascinating, since I can't really even have much of a dialogue with her, but I can try to have some sort of intercourse with you.

Um, what's with the writing in red? Not funny at all.

I suggest you watch the video and read the article and see what resonates with you, and leave what doesn't. Each person can get a different viewpoint on her perspective. Anyway, I think she is crystal clear in her explanations, so it wouldn't be too difficult.

Peace.

[FreedomStands]

Um, what's with the writing in red? Not funny at all.

I suggest you watch the video and read the article and see what resonates with you, and leave what doesn't. Each person can get a different viewpoint on her perspective. Anyway, I think she is crystal clear in her explanations, so it wouldn't be too difficult.

Peace.

It wasn't really supposed to be funny. This is called intercourse, it is just a synonym for dialogue or back and forth, I didn't mean sex or whatever, I'm not sure what you're commenting about exactly.

Does it resonate with anyone here that All life is Rape?

[Samira1234]

It wasn't really supposed to be funny. This is called intercourse, it is just a synonym for dialogue or back and forth

The pun wasn't funny.

Does it resonate with anyone here that All life is Rape?

That's an awful comment to make But again thinking about it, some circumstances we go through sure feels like that. Which is another reason why we humans spend so much time trying to figure out life in general, even if in bits and pieces here and there.

Peace.

[FreedomStands]

The pun wasn't funny.
That's an awful comment to make But again thinking about it, some circumstances we go through sure feels like that. Which is another reason why we humans spend so much time trying to figure out life in general, even if in bits and pieces here and there.

Peace.

Thank you for thinking about it! Yeah.

It seems we're forced into life, things are given to us and then taken away from us forcefully where we do not want them taken away from us, we are pushed into circumstances we don't like, and even the circumstances we think we like really weren't our choice much of the time nor would we have chosen things perhaps like even requiring to kill things (like plants) in order to eat (killing the plants which seem to just want to live and grow and feed themselves too), and then pooping and whatever. So it seemed that all life is rape, pillaging, stealing, terrorizing, harming, for us, and likewise we are harmed, and forced, and pushed, and even our birth was not our choice, and did the mother really want the pain of labor and did anyone really want pain at all?

You might want to take a look at some of my recent speeches which are extremely negative.

[Samira1234]

Yeah I understand FreedomStands. I am still figuring out myself on these matters. And why God would set up a universe like this and still call Itself most compassionate, merciful, wise and just. Feels like actions and words have trouble matching up a lot of the time, right?

Peace.

[huruf]

Freedom, you are free (great surprise) to take life as rape or to take life as comunion. As eaters, we are communers, as breathers we are communers, as sweaters we are communers. Shy should we understand that sweat is extracted from us, that viruses and parasites rape us, etc. etc.? Is it no better to thin that life and existence is a great sharing experience, tht we are all one and love each other and therefore exist from one to another, that we are no alone or unwanted... Cannibalism is mabe not the best nourishment and unnecessary since we can eat and "rape" the whole universe or at least let the whole universe feed on us. Adn in that sense, yes, rape is the permanent state, but the difference between rape and love is consent, is it not?

Salaam

[FreedomStands]

Yeah I understand FreedomStands. I am still figuring out myself on these matters. And why God would set up a universe like this and still call Itself most compassionate, merciful, wise and just. Feels like actions and words have trouble matching up a lot of the time, right?

Peace.

In my case, I believe it is because God is literally those things. For example, only God can literally know what someone else is feeling or has access to that experience or information, whereas we are always cut off we can never truly be "compassionate" in its literal definition. Likewise, any "mercy" that comes is ultimately from God, so that makes God literally the only "merciful" plus God could make things even worse than they already are, which is another "mercy". Whatever "justice" there is and whatever "wisdom" also, solely are invented by God, so that puts God in the position of literally being those things.

I write about it a bit here:

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607580.0

and maybe a bit here:

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607564.0

[FreedomStands]

Freedom, you are free (great surprise) to take life as rape or to take life as comunion. As eaters, we are communers, as breathers we are communers, as sweaters we are communers. Shy should we understand that sweat is extracted from us, that viruses and parasites rape us, etc. etc.? Is it no better to thin that life and existence is a great sharing experience, tht we are all one and love each other and therefore exist from one to another, that we are no alone or unwanted... Cannibalism is mabe not the best nourishment and unnecessary since we can eat and "rape" the whole universe or at least let the whole universe feed on us. Adn in that sense, yes, rape is the permanent state, but the difference between rape and love is consent, is it not?

Salaam

Yes, but we haven't given consent.

I did not give consent for there to be troubles in the world or misery or evil.

I did not give consent that I should be harmed or that I should require these things.

These things were forced on me.

That is why people who come with messages of hope and softness seem to me to be lying to themselves and others.

Did the ground give consent that we walk on it? Did the trees give consent that we cut them down? Did we give consent to die?

All of it is forced on us, that is why rape seems more appropriate a term than love.

Where is the love?

If God loves in any normal definition of the world, would the child be born deformed? Would evilness even exist? Would the diseases be put in people and make them suffer immensely? Would madness be so prevalent? What kind of love is that? It is no love at all.

Not only that, but we were made almost powerless to help ourselves, we are dependent constantly, always in need.

Would your friend or lover do that to you? Would your friend or lover kill your parents, fill you with disease, give you deformed children, make you witness horrors?

Certainly not, by any normal definitions of the world love.

Someone who loves you, would not hurt you, or leave you to be hurt, but would prevent it. You are simply not loved.

5:18 "And (both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are the children of Allah and His loved ones." Say: "Why then does He punish you for your sins?" Nay, you are but human beings, of those He has created, He forgives whom He wills and He punishes whom He wills. And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them, and to Him is the return (of all)."

Come to terms with the truth. The truth is that you are the creation of God, and God can do whatever God wants to do and there is none to stop God. You are expendable, and God is not in need of anything. You're part of one particular piece of artwork, and you can be replaced in a moment with something even better.

47:38 "Here you are - those invited to spend in the cause of Allah - but among you are those who withhold [out of greed]. And whoever withholds only withholds [benefit] from himself; and Allah is the Free of need, while you are the needy. And if you turn away, He will replace you with another people; then they will not be the likes of you."

[Samira1234]

5:18 "And (both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are the children of Allah and His loved ones." Say: "Why then does He punish you for your sins?" Nay, you are but human beings, of those He has created, He forgives whom He wills and He punishes whom He wills. And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them, and to Him is the return (of all).

Basically then Allah is saying that if He really loved the human beings and considered them as His children, He would not punish them. Hmm. I am not sure on what to say on this.

He forgives whom He wills and He punishes whom He wills? Wow. In a way FreedomStands is right on his idea on this.

I think you guys heard my criticism regarding the Quran earlier. Here is another verse deserving criticism of this god who apparently sent the Quran. This god is by no way Most Compassionate, Merciful, Wise and Just, because there are many people who are apparently better than this god. We are like toys to this god, to be rewarded and punished according to His will (or whims, the way I am seeing it).

I know a God does have an outmost power like this, and for many of us who are unaware if the grand design do feel like this about the world. Hence this is another reason why I keep searching for spiritual truths which hopefully resonate with me somehow. One thing though, just saying, I do not trust the Quran's current standard translation. I dont know which person can read such verses and feel uplifted, except to think "well its all a test anyway, and the Hereafter is the real world" or "we should be grateful for the existing love and blessings in this life". The second point I agree with myself, but not in the context of accepting the Quran the way it is written as well.

Peace.