I am confused about Islam.

[Mussabahire]

Dear brothers and sisters,
From the time I started to read about Quran alone and Anti-Hadithers, I am feeling a great confusion in my mind. I cannot listen to my scholars anymore(online ones) as whenever I listen to them I find them TOO STUPID from what they say from hadeeth or their interpretation of Quran. I no longer read a book and get moved unless it's a quran only like book. I used to listen to Dr Naik, Mufti MENK, Abdullah Faisal, Anjem Choudary,....but now I find them rubbish and I have no choice. What do I do? I feel like quran alone is a new religion and I will start from scratch. I feel like leaving traditional islam is like leaving islam itself.And my wife is a strict traditional hadeeth lover and she is not ready to learn any thing contrary to her beliefs. Advise!!!

[mmkhan]

Salaam brother,

- Changing your religion from hadeeth to Quran only religion is not recommended but better to be Allah alone [which is not a religion] [51:56, 19:36].

- Allah did not created you for others, but He created you to serve Him alone. So, holding Allah tightly is enough [3:101].

- For everything you needed be it help, confusion, support, understanding, etc. turn towards your only Lord and seek His help [40:60] [2:186].

That is all you need.


May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path
mmKhan

[hafeez kazi]

Peace

If the prophet and the sahabas rise from the grave today, they would prefer SECOND death immediately after seeing today's Islam. The Hadithers, the translators of the Quran and the idiot scholars  have played a major role in diverting the believers from Quran which ultimately gave rise to a CONFUSED ISLAM. The latest product of confused Islam is ISIS, BOKO HARAM, AL QAEEDA, AL NUSRA, TALIBAN and many more. The more you keep yourself away from these idiots the more will you will be saved from going astray. Till 1998 I was a champion of Hadith but then when I started reading and understanding Quran I found the same Hadith a book of  nonsense, vulgar and fantasy. I thank Allah for guiding me.

Thanks

[hicham9]

To HELL with "the sahabas" [and their brainless epigones of sycophants]!

[Man of Faith]

Hail brother,

There is no religion so you leave only a delusion behind if you leave a religion called "Islam". The system with GOD is being sound, which Quran almost exclusively uses to refer to the clarity of mind which is reflected in what you do, say and think. Rituals have entered the interpretation by the same type of clerics you rebuke in the post.

Be well

[runninglikezebras]

My advice read Quran yourself.  Read it often.  Study it.  Research the etymology of the quranic arabic words.  All you need is Gods guidance to understand, no scholars nor imams.  We are blessed to have this Quran.  It is literally all you need to find the straight path, given Gods guidance.

Peace

[Mussabahire]

Exactly. Now I find everything I used to enjoy rubbish. Every Scholar in my eyes has become stupid. I see other muslims as misguided and I feel I will never go back to N2I-Hadeeth Islam. Hadeeth now look nonsense, vulgar and fantasy and violent even if I used to deny it or justify it using AC Brown methods. Thanks.

[Reee]

Please don't fall from one extreme to the other.
Of course there are those extremely stupid or disgusting hadith, but others are just nice little stories containing some truth. The point it that they are about a human being like any other human being. We can always learn from other human beings, as long as we don't set them as our god. There are even some "scholars" who have good ideas. But they are also human beings, so we should use our own brain and heart to decide whether we accept what they say or not. And don't forget that no one can know for sure who is the guided one and who is the misguided one.

[runninglikezebras]

I concur with Reee and would like to add to it that hadith are written/fabricated on this forum on a daily basis.   

Use your intellect.  Crosscheck everything with personal quran study.

Peace

[Man of Faith]

And don't forget that no one can know for sure who is the guided one and who is the misguided one.

In fact we can. It is all in their example. And then I do not mean meaningless rituals or other rites out of ignorance as they are a mere distraction.

The faith is strictly a test of discipline, with control over the wordly matter rather than it controlling you, and all forms of irrelevance and redundancy is unnecessary but also does not matter if you have control over it and in reach of your connection or "door". The visible world is a mere distraction and part of the test, and the person who grasped control over their spirit has no inherent need for it, but also does not damage themselves in the guise that a separate god phenomenon needs sacrifice and total abstention from it when the assigned body has certain innate needs in itself as according to "programming". One has to "play the game according to the rules".

In the end it comes down to the one who was linked to the 'Rabb' (lit. Sustaining Foundation/Platform, like the bus of a computer motherboard) through the taint of their body.

(Pagan) Worship is entirely futile as the 'Rabb' has no innate needs but the honoring is done by being "a node of the network" filling its purpose and showing prominence, and the most important is not to succumb to your own temptations of the body that you become a mindless beast. There you have your Shaytaan.

Physical worship is the show of a failure to Shaytaan because it is just a bodily deception. All kinds of irrelevancy is a load that one has to be able to handle. If you fast you do it for your own sake. If you meditate it is for your own sake. But doing a good deed towards a brother or sister you do for them. Reduction of the self is a key to progress and apparent piety may even be unproductive because it boosts the ego. Strong emphasis on modesty and to help others while diminishing the personal credit for it is a win-win. The one who has grasped the right does not have any need for anything except what is needed for the "game" because 'the Rabb' has no need as to which you are interconnected to on "the network", even if the flesh has needs. Needs is a fallible and instinctive trait.

So try to find yourselves and you find your Rabb.

Be well

[hicham9]

اں ربـكـ هو اعـلمـ بـمں ضـل عں سـبـىـلـه وهو اعـلمـ بـالمهـتـدىـں
It is thy Master who is best acquainted with (him) who strayed from His way, and He is best acquainted with the guided (ones)

CU
Sūreh 68:7

[Man of Faith]

Yes, but it says best acquainted and not the sole knower. GOD knows everything.

Be well

[hicham9]

When G-D emphasizes that He (alone) is best acquainted with x, it simply means: I'm not (best acquainted with x).

SLM

[Man of Faith]

Alone is your addition. It does not mention "third person" alone. Best acquainted with a fact means you have better knowledge which is not strange since GOD has 100% knowledge of everything into the tiniest detail. It does however not mean that by observation and reflection including insight one cannot know things such as if a person is virtuous or not because it is in their words and actions. The behavior reveals if a person is guided or not. If they live and indulge in this world, break Commandments and particularly heap up possessions they are not guided.

As for rituals or rites as to say one is guided or not is futile since they are human expressions. People have Pagan misconceptions.

Be well

[hicham9]

Alone is your addition. It does not mention "third person" alone.

I didn't "add" any -alone- in my CU. of 68:7!

اں ربـكـ هو اعـلمـ بـمں ضـل عں سـبـىـلـه وهو اعـلمـ بـالمهـتـدىـں
It is thy Master who is best acquainted with (him) who strayed from His way, and He is best acquainted with the guided (ones)

CU
Sūreh 68:7

Besides, I don't see G-D mentioning others along His Absoluteness!
Ergo. I daresay: G-D ALONE is best acquainted [with all].

Best acquainted with a fact means you have better knowledge which is not strange since GOD has 100% knowledge of everything into the tiniest detail. It does however not mean that by observation and reflection including insight one cannot know things such as if a person is virtuous or not ...

I partly agree.

... because it is in their words and actions.
The behavior reveals if a person is guided or not.
If they live and indulge in this world, break Commandments and particularly heap up possessions they are not guided.

Still, there are those [hypocrites] who "do good" just to show off [= impress the weak-minded (majority)]!
For instance, there are those who "say nice things" just to deceive [like e.g. = the clergy (who appeal to emotion and لهو الحديث) in order to recruit sheeple, and earn some power/money/servants/&c.] ... Or those who give to charity then brag about it! — The list goes on and on!

Not even G-D's messenger could discern all hypocrites (9:101)!

In the end, G-D ALONE is best acquainted with him who's (truly) guided/misguided.
For G-D ALONE knows best/fully what's within our inner hearts/minds [ان الـلــه عــلــيــمـ بـذات الـصــدور] and that which is beyond, ...
we don't!

Hence:

When G-D emphasizes that He (alone) is best acquainted with x, it simply means: I'm not (best acquainted with x)

Further, it's not just a matter of (positive) deed alone. Conviction/Acknowledgment must be (for it to work) ...

As for rituals or rites as to say one is guided or not is futile since they are human expressions.

Depends on how you define "rite"

People have Pagan misconceptions.

True!

~ じゃね

[FreedomStands]

Dear brothers and sisters,
From the time I started to read about Quran alone and Anti-Hadithers, I am feeling a great confusion in my mind. I cannot listen to my scholars anymore(online ones) as whenever I listen to them I find them TOO STUPID from what they say from hadeeth or their interpretation of Quran. I no longer read a book and get moved unless it's a quran only like book. I used to listen to Dr Naik, Mufti MENK, Abdullah Faisal, Anjem Choudary,....but now I find them rubbish and I have no choice. What do I do? I feel like quran alone is a new religion and I will start from scratch. I feel like leaving traditional islam is like leaving islam itself.And my wife is a strict traditional hadeeth lover and she is not ready to learn any thing contrary to her beliefs. Advise!!!

My advice for you is to moderate any extremist tendencies in yourself:

39:18
who listen [closely] to all that is said, and follow the best of it: [for] it is they whom God has graced with His guidance, and it is they who are [truly] endowed with insight!

So, I think I understand your feeling and dilemma, I feel the same way sometimes, but I try to always listen to whatever is said by people and follow the best out of it and eschew what is false or whatever might be of concern.

I think that cultivating peace and love in your home is more important perhaps than many other things, and that doing so can be considered an act of charity as well as teaching from example rather than from dispute. By being a wonderful and healthy person you end up spreading the message and a positive image of your beliefs.

So my advice is take it easy, enjoy and be pleasant with your wife and family, be good to the Sunni Muslims and treat everyone well including all the little insects and animals, and be a source of peace and prosperity as an ambassador of Allah's religion.

What do you think?

[Man of Faith]

Hicham,

While GOD knows best, because of 100% insight, share of the realm, you can see a hypocrite through their ways.

Be well

[reel]

Dear brothers and sisters,
From the time I started to read about Quran alone and Anti-Hadithers, I am feeling a great confusion in my mind. I cannot listen to my scholars anymore(online ones) as whenever I listen to them I find them TOO STUPID from what they say from hadeeth or their interpretation of Quran. I no longer read a book and get moved unless it's a quran only like book. I used to listen to Dr Naik, Mufti MENK, Abdullah Faisal, Anjem Choudary,....but now I find them rubbish and I have no choice. What do I do? I feel like quran alone is a new religion and I will start from scratch. I feel like leaving traditional islam is like leaving islam itself.And my wife is a strict traditional hadeeth lover and she is not ready to learn any thing contrary to her beliefs. Advise!!!

Salam brother, I don't think you are leaving Islam. You are just practicing awareness which actually is the symbol of being a critical thinker. There is nothing wrong in finding those guys when they bring up hadith books. I sometimes find myself in your place and its just the consequence of knowing that the mainstream Islam is mere a matrix of deception. I am sure you know that not all the things these guys say are inaccurate (minus explanation from hadiths). So just keep an open mind. That's what us Muslims are supposed to practice. At the end of the day, we all believe in one God. You are correct about starting out from the scratch. Enjoy it because you are just trying to make sure you follow the truth. I am certain that Allah loves that.

[fye]

Dear brothers and sisters,
From the time I started to read about Quran alone and Anti-Hadithers, I am feeling a great confusion in my mind. I cannot listen to my scholars anymore(online ones) as whenever I listen to them I find them TOO STUPID from what they say from hadeeth or their interpretation of Quran. I no longer read a book and get moved unless it's a quran only like book. I used to listen to Dr Naik, Mufti MENK, Abdullah Faisal, Anjem Choudary,....but now I find them rubbish and I have no choice. What do I do? I feel like quran alone is a new religion and I will start from scratch. I feel like leaving traditional islam is like leaving islam itself.And my wife is a strict traditional hadeeth lover and she is not ready to learn any thing contrary to her beliefs. Advise!!!

been there and yes they don't read the quran or care about anything their greatest belief is if you don't know or have someone else to blame you won't be judged for it. prophet muhammed??

tHE QURAN INSTRUCTS YOU TO FOLLOW THE WAYS OF pROPHET aBRAHAM THE TRUE IN FAITH HE AND HIS SON BIULT THE QABAH THE PLACE YOU ARE INSTRUCTED TO PRAY TOWARDS!!!!

i've even heard that the qaba was made from meteor rock that fell from the sky. just accept islam (Abrahamic monothiesm) it was the faith for prophet abraham and it is in truth islam, even the word jihad is having many meaning now if you check the ad on youtube about jihad saying things like "my jihad is______".

they are simply jews , the way they change the word from it's rightful places "raina to ra'ina" with a twist of their tongues, they even look like ha-sid-ick jews, lol.
look at the money they store up and the forgeries they chose over the truth, read surah 2 and analyze the people you've met and tell me are they muslims, follow the messenger and ALLAH's word or just people of the book (having a book like the quran or bible, but not accepting it).  read surah baqarah about the illiterates who know not the book but say .... "this is exactly what they are illiterates who have never read the quran but say a bunch of things they guess will be in the quran"

no excuses you are on a path to manifest truth stay away from them so they can't hurt you in anyway trust me i know, a remember Prophet Abraham had no friends except ALLAH so don't expect to change anyones minds.

remember they are bullshitters, if you can read harry potter ever book word for word then you can read 114 surah the quran life is long enough for them do so,.

peace yo

[mmkhan]

Salam brother, I don't think you are leaving Islam. You are just practicing awareness which actually is the symbol of being a critical thinker. There is nothing wrong in finding those guys when they bring up hadith books. I sometimes find myself in your place and its just the consequence of knowing that the mainstream Islam is mere a matrix of deception. I am sure you know that not all the things these guys say are inaccurate (minus explanation from hadiths). So just keep an open mind. That's what us Muslims are supposed to practice. At the end of the day, we all believe in one God. You are correct about starting out from the scratch. Enjoy it because you are just trying to make sure you follow the truth. I am certain that Allah loves that.

Peace,

I agree with most of the part.

[Kikotsu]

Salam Brother Mussabahire

From the time I started to read about Quran alone and Anti-Hadithers, I am feeling a great confusion in my mind.

This is a good news you must be happy ^_^

I cannot listen to my scholars anymore(online ones) as whenever I listen to them I find them TOO STUPID from what they say from hadeeth or their interpretation of Quran

oh that is better DON'T LISTEN TO THEM .. LISTEN TO GOD

I no longer read a book and get moved unless it's a quran only like book.

read everything and always learn but BELIEVE IN GOD ONLY AS A SOURCE OF LAW which means : BELIEVE IN QURAN ONLY AS A SOURCE OF LAW

I used to listen to Dr Naik, Mufti MENK, Abdullah Faisal, Anjem Choudary

-_- bad times..

but now I find them rubbish and I have no choice

AHA YUP ^_^

What do I do?

You are doing well .. you have to start following the QURAN ONLY (GOD'S REVELATION)

I feel like quran alone is a new religion and I will start from scratch

it's not new ! PROPHET MUHAMMAD FOLLOWED QURAN ONLY and by saying QURAN ONLY I mean you are following GOD'S WORDS .. it's an honor

I feel like leaving traditional islam is like leaving islam itself

NO , that means you are leaving Sunnism and Shiism

And my wife is a strict traditional hadeeth lover and she is not ready to learn any thing contrary to her beliefs

if you are following Hadith you must beat her if she was the one who left corrupted Islam and turned to ISLAM .. you must beat her until she goes back to the corrupted version of islam or maybe some scholars will order you to kill her (whoever changes his religion .... KILL HIM/HER)

Advise.

READ THE QURAN and don't be afraid if you explained something wrongly but keep going , it's a journey full of peace , learning , and GOD'S LOVE

May GOD guide us to the staight path ^_^

[Timotheus]

peace be upon you.
It can be difficult to accept, On my journey of transformation i have been disheartened and mislead by much, but i have always persevered and i believe its all part of finding the truth. and  there is a great reward in paradise for those who overcome and turn to their Lord alone and follow his final revelation
May God heal your Heart and guide you to the truth