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Quote from: burhan on August 31, 2018, 04:52:54 AM

I agree with you 100% on drugs and much of modern medicine. I don't even take paracetamol. Good diet, exercise and a healthy happy mind is the best cure.   

Good diet indeed. You should try za'atar spice. Even Moses ben Maimon a.k.a Maimonides used it for its health advancing properties like clearing respiratory tracts: https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/herbs-and-spices/zaatar.html

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Quote from: burhan on August 31, 2018, 06:40:08 AM
The answer to the graph question. By using mortality rate the anti-vaccine crew are being deceptive. That's the hallmark of pseudoscience which cherry picks evidence.





Could you explain how this is cherry picked? Where did you get it from? From which article?

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Quote from: burhan on August 31, 2018, 06:40:08 AM
This really good article will help you. Take time to read it.
https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/pseudoscience-is-bullshit-science-not/
The title is a bit aggressive since there is foul language in it but nevertheless i will give it read. Thank you.

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I just realized that you were talking about a different graph. My mistake. However i did noticed that in the graph that in 1974, that part of Measles went up but went down again and yet in 1988 it went up again. How come? What happened?  How did Measles got more infections in U.S between 1988 & 1993?

reel

Quote from: burhan on August 31, 2018, 04:52:54 AM


Inshallah we will have 100% coverage and no child will die from these horrible diseases.

Vaccines are the human race greatest achievement. All the countries working together for a common good.
Hey man, I'm not arguing. Written communication always seems rude so just read everything with a smile.

My friend you are mixing science, popular science, pseudoscience, research and propaganda.



Burhan, for God's sake, listen to your own advice I highlighted above. Don't talk about things you don't know. That whole "Vaccines are the human race greatest achievement" is a line from probably my great great grandfather's time. We are literally trying to now save babies from that thing.Our system is corrupt. Those who make vaccines sit in top positions to tell what babies should be getting. Now we have 28 vaccines given to  kid within 18 months of his birth. Government paid billions of dollars in compensation to those who have become disabled due to these toxins. I know it because I am from healthcare and I did my research on that several times.
"I fear that nothing will lead me to hell more than ḥadīth"-Hadith collector: Shu'ba Ibn al-Ḥajjāj

burhan

Quote from: reel on September 03, 2018, 03:39:12 AM
Burhan, for God's sake, listen to your own advice I highlighted above. Don't talk about things you don't know. That whole "Vaccines are the human race greatest achievement" is a line from probably my great great grandfather's time. We are literally trying to now save babies from that thing.Our system is corrupt. Those who make vaccines sit in top positions to tell what babies should be getting. Now we have 28 vaccines given to  kid within 18 months of his birth. Government paid billions of dollars in compensation to those who have become disabled due to these toxins. I know it because I am from healthcare and I did my research on that several times.

That's completely untrue.

Lets look at your claims one by one. Given that people die from just the scent of a peanut it is obvious that some compounds that are toxic for one person will be benign or even beneficial for another. 

Over a ten year period what percentage of children have been injured by vaccines? (You are in US? we can use their figures).





   


Peace.

Wakas

peace all,

I have studied vaccines a fair bit, so I'm looking forward to the reel/burhan debate. I strongly suggest a separate thread for this discussion (please title it "Vaccines discussion" or similar).

Burhan, it would be handy if you specified which part(s) of reel's statement are untrue.

For example, reel said "Government paid billions of dollars in compensation to those who have become disabled due to these toxins.".

This is true and can be verified here: https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/data/index.html

Quote: "Total compensation paid over the life of the program is approximately $3.9 billion."

All information in my posts is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should seek knowledge and verify: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11. [url="http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/"]My articles[/url]

[url="//www.studyquran.org"]www.studyQuran.org[/url]

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Quote from: Wakas on September 12, 2018, 05:22:09 AM

For example, reel said "Government paid billions of dollars in compensation to those who have become disabled due to these toxins.".

This is true and can be verified here: https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/data/index.html

Quote: "Total compensation paid over the life of the program is approximately $3.9 billion."
Salam/Peace brother Wakas. I would like to add this from that link:
https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/hrsa/vaccine-compensation/data/monthly-stats-sept-2018.pdf