Y are we mum?

[harris]

Peace,

One of the largest rallies in the history of Europe in recent times has taken place. World leaders have joined to show their solidarity. Media around the world is filled with news and opinions about how freedom of speech is under attack. The Paris attack is the talking point everywhere today.

In all this, the usual accusations we see against Muslims are
-Muslims are unable to peacefully integrate and live in any society that welcomes them
-Islam is an intolerant religion whose followers are brain-washed to commit such atrocities
-Educated and moderate Muslims whose role it is to stand up for the cause of humanity are usually silent when such inhuman attacks occur, which indirectly shows their acceptance of the forces of violence.

This last point seems to be atleast partially true.. Even in this forum, supposedly one of the places where enlightened Muslims come together, there is not a single discussion about these world incidents. Isn't that a pity? 

[FreedomStands]

I am the caged bird, was your picture meant to suggest that we escape the confines of our system?

I am brainwashed. Talk to me harris. Help me harris, if you can.

I am a fanatic.

I am a radical.

I am an extremist.

I am a fundamentalist.

I preach terror to the people and try to terrify them and my God is the Terror.

The Qur'an does not preach the killing of civilians and the Muslims generally do not profit from these actions, so one should look and consider who does profit from such actions? Certainly who profits from it are those who want to impose strict laws that treat all people as criminals with surveillance and whatever else, so be a little cautious perhaps.

[FreedomStands]

Then again, if this is a thread about asking your mother why you exist "why "are we", mum?", know that it is because Allah made it so.

[harris]

Then again, if this is a thread about asking your mother why you exist "why "are we", mum?", know that it is because Allah made it so.

lol...   

[huruf]

Thsi is preposterous, there are hundred of pages of dcondemnations, but the fact is that the main victims of "muslim" terrorism are muslims.

I am sick to the core of this hypocrisy. We are well ahead in justfying the pobroms and the final solution for muslims. Or do you think the nazis went otherwise about making the jews a legitimate target?

This is sickening.

Salaam

[FreedomStands]

lol...   

Haha, thank you so much for noticing my joke! It makes me so happy that you might have found it funny!

[harris]

Thsi is preposterous, there are hundred of pages of dcondemnations, but the fact is that the main victims of "muslim" terrorism are muslims.

The hypocrisy will continue for years to come untill the voice of the oppressed are louder than the voice of the oppressors. Every time there is an incident like this, the voice of reason from real peace-loving Muslims need to be heard...we need to be heard more than the violent voices of barbarians, more than the international media voices who keep showing a shaded picture... The problem now is that we are under attack from all corners of the world.


When the world does not understand what Islam is about, how is there any hope of a better future?

There is no other choice. The world needs to be constantly reminded who Muslims really are. The only people who can do that are the Muslims who are educated, speak English and come into contact with people of other faiths. The world is becoming an increasingly hostile place for Muslims because the religion of Islam has been hijacked by extremists ages ago.

[Arman]

Salamun alaikum:

I sincerely condemn the atrocities (violence and killing) conducted at CH office and Kosher Supermarket. May Allah condemn the ones who caused or initiated the menace for their act of repression (kufr) of faith in Him. And may Allah help us all against the faith repressing people.

Saying so ? no amount of atrocities could be or should be used as a ground to justify / glorify or even signify the tasteless publications of CH that caused the provocation (fitnah) in the first place.

Imagine a satire magazine publishing cartoons glorifying the Holocaust events to condemn atrocities or Israel, or publishing a cartoon of Gandhi raping a Japanese tourist girl to symbolically protest against the events in India, or publish cartoon glorifying the Hiroshima / Nagasaki bombing OR 9/11 bombing ? just to show nothing is above humor ? what do you think would be the reaction of the Global media that is vocal about Freedom of Press today?

The Western press has lost its sensitivity to religion and religious figures, so to them if I can make fun of Jesus, I can make fun of Muhammad, so what is the big deal? The big deal is that your area of sensitivity is not same as someone else?s area of sensitivity.

In June 2014, 3 teenage Jewish kids in Israel were brutally murdered by miscreants. In response to that there were allegedly certain cartoons published by the Hamas media showing 3 killed rats with Star of David on them; and certain Hamas leader allegedly publicly showed victory gesture with 3 fingers (instead of usual 2). Such provocations may have prompted a ?revenge? killing of Palestine kids.. followed by unsuccessful rocket attack by Hamas ? further followed by military action by Jewish forces against Hamas, which resulted in huge casualties on the People of Gaza. While I condemn the disproportionate response of Israel as sheer terrorism and I mourn the losses of the people of Gaza ? their atrocities by no way justify / glorify or even signify the tasteless cartoons that surfaced after the murder of 3 teenagers. Those who surfaced the cartoons acted as provocateurs towards the sad events that followed, just like CH did in France. What is bad remains bad even if bad is followed by the worse. Evil begets evil, one evil does not justify another. And good people should stay united to condemn all forms of evil altogether.

Not unnecessarily poking other people?s sensitive sentiments is a fundamental human etiquette ? and Freedom of Speech DOES NOT overrule that  etiquette. Those who propagate that drawing naked cartoon of respected figures for fun is our freedom of expression, perhaps should begin their cartoonist career with drawing and publishing a naked cartoon of their mother.

While I join in solemn solidarity with the people of France and the friends and relatives  of the direct victims to condemn the terrorists and mourn the victims, I hope and pray to Allah that the overwhelming zeal against bigotry does not get mutilated into an encouragement to further attacking each other?s sensitive areas.

Je ne suis pas Charlie, mais je condamne violance et le meurtre. Je pr?f?re ?tre Ahmed.

May Allah guide us all to the straight route.

Regards,
Arman

[huruf]

The hypocrisy will continue for years to come untill the voice of the oppressed are louder than the voice of the oppressors. Every time there is an incident like this, the voice of reason from real peace-loving Muslims need to be heard...we need to be heard more than the violent voices of barbarians, more than the international media voices who keep showing a shaded picture... The problem now is that we are under attack from all corners of the world.


When the world does not understand what Islam is about, how is there any hope of a better future?

There is no other choice. The world needs to be constantly reminded who Muslims really are. The only people who can do that are the Muslims who are educated, speak English and come into contact with people of other faiths. The world is becoming an increasingly hostile place for Muslims because the religion of Islam has been hijacked by extremists ages ago.

If you want muslims to be heard then go after your mainstream press, your mainstream tvs. and your officials and paid propagandists and special operations forces who provide all the fodder to drwon the muslims in falsa gflag operations.

If you do not know that muslims condemn , it is because you do not have access to the hundreds upon hundreds of condemnation from all quarters. However if a fly anywhere supposed to be muslim says something shocking mest day it is all over the press and tv run continously and constantly till the world is nothing but a run of that shocking think of that muslim fly.

Even if they condemn it is useless when the muslims do it, because nobody tell the world such thing, just as nobody tell the world when eastern christians, for instance, speak well of muslims or same something constructive about commong life.

There is no freedom of the press such that the Muslim condemners would get not even a little tiny percentage of press or tv space.

It is really ridiculous that on top of it they should be blamed for not condemning the false flags that are staged against them.


Salaam

[FreedomStands]

Did your mother ever get back to you on that one? I'd really like to know what she thinks!