Want to see a Jinn? Here is some information that might help!

[Man of Faith]

They aren't supernatural, we can just rename whatever I'm talking about something else.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4174-plasma-blobs-hint-at-new-form-of-life.html#.VZi_B_mhSnA

Maybe some day they will be on the level, but in any case I'm talking about plasma based life forms, which aren't supernatural, I've video taped them, seen video of them, communicated with them with witnesses, dealt with them, its nothing mystical at all, no channeling, no possession. They are just a different sort of life form made out of something different than us, we are made of "mud" but "nothing can be made of mud" its talking about carbon matter which we are made of and flame of fire intensely hot which is plasma, it doesn't seem like a big deal to me, but I might doubt it too had I not personally dealt with these clearly visible to everyones eyes creatures, photographed them, communicated with them, had witnesses and whatever else, no magic tricks involved. You can find them pretty easily. If you don't want to call them jinn though, we can just call them something else.

I call them humans or I call them stones. It is the same.

Be well

[hawk99]

Oh ok, I took it more literally yeah, since humans are real creatures, jinn are real creatures (I know you're not disputing that, plus it wouldn't even matter because I personally know they are just real creatures, or whatever I'm calling jinn anyway), and since I took the humans being made out of mud literally, I took the jinn being made out of fire literally as well. I don't find humans to particularly "humble" or "dirty" or any number of the associations with "mud" and jinn to be particularly "fiesty" or anything. Many jinn are quite gentle and graceful, floating around, sniffing gasoline or rotten food.

So what is the mystical meaning you take from those verses? What is the mystical interpretation of "mud" and "fire"? I'm just curious. I don't mind so much anyway either or both versions, I tend towards taking those verses mostly literally with maybe some symbolism involved.

It also might not make total sense, like Satan's racist complaint being that he has more of a fiery personality? When the Qur'an repeatedly says humans are made of mud, it seems literal, and says humans are "made of haste" which seems more like fire symbolically.

I don't know, can you explain your preferences and ideas?

Sure FreedomStands, the mud and fire analogies are general
metaphors depicting the nature of the two types of invisible entities that
inhabit the human body. 

God bless

                 

[FreedomStands]

Sure FreedomStands, the mud and fire analogies are general
metaphors depicting the nature of the two types of invisible entities that
inhabit the human body. 

God bless

                 

How can you come to that conclusion after reading the Qur'an though when it talks about the Jinn in the Surah called The Jinn?

Children of Adam, the mud people, seem to be a reference to humankind.

Could you explain your beliefs?

So the jinn, which is part of the human body in a mystical way, were "created before" the human race? According to the Qur'an. Can this idea make sense?

[hawk99]

How can you come to that conclusion after reading the Qur'an though when it talks about the Jinn in the Surah called The Jinn?

Children of Adam, the mud people, seem to be a reference to humankind.

Could you explain your beliefs?

So the jinn, which is part of the human body in a mystical way, were "created before" the human race? According to the Qur'an. Can this idea make sense?

Peace FreedomStands, the prevailing consensus on this subject has so many gaps
that it is difficult to arrive at any sensible collective conclusion.  I will start by enumerating
the characteristics of the jinn and we and other forum members can work from there.

Characteristics of the Jinn

1.  Arrogance

2.  Can talk  6/112       ??

3.  Received messengers  6/130

4.  Have nations or communities

5.  Will end up in heaven or hell

6.  Feel superior for some reason (culture, ethnicity, race, wealth etc.,)

7.  A companion

8.  Intelligent

9.  Refuse to serve man (not worship)

10. Worked for Solomon

and many more................

From this list we can deduce that the jinn are very familiar to us humans.

So who are they?

God bless

               

[truthseeker11]

Hello readers,

Humans are at the 3rd density/dimensional state of existence. They have consciousness and free will to choose between STS (service to self) or STO (service to others) path.

Jinns AKA aliens are at 4th or higher density states of existence. They have all of the above plus their sub atomic particles are made of strings of energy vibrating at a different frequency than the lower densities so their "bodies" appear different, with different physical properties. For example they can cloak themselves from the lower densities, have ability of telepathic communication, can materialize as 3rd density beings, exist as a collective, exist on planets that are uninhabitable to lower density entities, have advanced intelligence, technology and spiritual abilities, have extremely long lifespans ranging from 100,000 years to millions of years at highest densities etc. Their bodies become less and less dense and more and more light as the densities increase.

This can be researched by studying the rapidly increasing body of evidence about "aliens" that has accumulated since the dawn of mankind, including archeological evidence, encounters of the third and fourth kind, UFO sightings and videos, alien autopsies after UFO crashes etc. If anyone is interested I will be happy to summarize some of these evidences which you can then research in more detail.

Please feel free to discard this if it does not resonate with your beliefs or views.

Peace

[hawk99]

If anyone is interested I will be happy to summarize some of these evidences which you can then research in more detail.
Peace

Peace truthseeker11, please summarize your evidence for all to learn the details.

They have consciousness and free will to choose between STS (service to self) or STO (service to others) path.

I agree

God bless you
                     


                           

[truthseeker11]

Peace everyone,

The following is a brief summary from my notes, in no chronological order. Readers are free to discard this if it doesn't resonate with their beliefs and views.

UFO crash Freiburg, Germany, 1936.

UFO crash, Roswell, New Mexico, 1947. Bodies of EBE (extra terrestrial biological entitities) recovered. Taken to Wright Patterson air force base and then to Area 51. Autopsy on EBE performed at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Autopsy revealed that EBE (AKA Grey Aliens) had no digestive system but had a respiratory system. There were no sex organs. Eyes had a black lens for night vision. Brains had 4 hemispheres as opposed to 2 hemispheres in humans. In the crashed UFO there were handprints on panels where aliens put their hands and controlled the spacecraft by signals from brains - a direct mental interface. Please look up "Stringfield Files".

UFO crash Kecksburg, Pennsylvania, 1965

Please look up "Edgar Fouche, TR-3B" for details about American built UFO reverse engineered from Alien UFOs.

Varginha, Brazil, 1996, 7 aliens found wandering in street, witnessed by many people. Brazilian officials turned them over to USA government. 2 of the captured aliens died.

Kingman Incident, 1953, Kingman, Arizona reported by Arthur Stansel. There was a UFO crash and alien body was recovered.

"Guy Hottel Memo" was sent to Edgar Hoover about UFO crashes in 1947 in New Mexico. Alien bodies were recovered.

San Augustin, New Mexico, 1947. Alien seen by roadside in evening by a rancher driving his truck. Rancher drove alien to his home and offered food but alien won't eat. Alien had disappeared when the family woke up in morning.

Please look up "UFO crash in 1947, alien bodies recovered, Barney Barnett".

Please look up "Linda Moulton Howe, alien autopsies".

Please look up "2013 Citizens hearing held on UFOs in Washington, DC".

Phoenix, Arizona, 3/1997, thousands of witnesses saw UFO's, multiple camera shot pictures, videos from multiple angles, UFOs were triangular shaped.

Eupen, Belgium, UFO wave, November 1989 to Spring 1990, over 1000 sightings, 1500 witnesses, multiple photos, UFOs were black and triangular.

US government has finally admitted crash of UFO, Roswell, New Mexico, 1947.

Please look up "Washington Flap". US government admitted existence of UFOs when 7 UFOs flew over Washington, DC, 1952.

Somerset, England, 1993, wave of UFO sightings. Several dozen witnesses including air force officers. UK government also admitted seeing them.

Dulce, New Mexico, southwest of Archuleta Mesa, secret underground base and lab discovered in 8/1979. Alien human fire fight broke out. Phil Shneider, army engineer, was injured, some humans and aliens died in the fight. In the lab, aliens were performing experimentation on humans, harvesting their organs, human mutilations, stem cell and DNA research on humans was being performed by aliens.

Utah, canyon land national park, alien rock coating AKA desert varnish discovered, which is found only on Mars.

Thousands of years old petroglyphs discovered on rocks, depicting tall thin beings in body space suits.

Colares Incident, Brazil, 1977-1978, victims attacked and samples taken by alien visitors, 35 people received radiation burns. Air force attacked UFOs but were helpless. 200 UFOs reported over 4 month period. Ionizing and non ionizing radiation, and high powered pulse microwaves found.

Tehran Incident, 9/1976, F-4 Phantom fighter jet dispatched after UFO, fighter jet instrument panel fails near UFO. 2nd fighter jet dispatched but its electronics shut down as soon as missile fire button pressed.

UFO crash, Dalnegorsk, Russia, 1986, strange metallic beads recovered.

Cumbria, England, 1964, Solway Firth Spaceman captured on photo. Kodak offered reward to anyone who can prove image to be fake.

Socorro, New Mexico, 4/1964, Zamora Incident. Police officer Zamora had close encounter of 3rd kind, saw 2 humanoid figures standing next to UFO on ground.

Ted Davenport, Alamogordo, New Mexico, 1975, close encounter of 4th kind, saw aliens and blacked out. Aliens were small humanoid beings. 5 years later MRI revealed metallic implant in his brain.

Travis Walton, Arizona, 11/1975, alien abduction. Abducted by 5 feet tall humanoid beings. He was found 5 days later several miles from abduction site.

Rendelsham Forest Incident, UK, 12/1980, involving 2 US air force bases. 3 nights of consecutive UFO activity. 1st night triangular UFO landed with strange symbols on it, one airman touches the craft. Radiation later detected at landing site. Deputy commander of base Colonel Halt witnessed the UFOs.

Gary McKinnon hacked into NASA computers in 2001 and found evidence of extra terrestrial alien air force officers and pictures of alien spaceships like USSS Hillenkoetter. Found evidence of a secret alien space force.

Peru Incident, La Joya, 4/1980, direct cannon fired by SU-22 Russian fighter jet hits UFO with no damage whatsoever.

Allagash abduction, Maine, 8/1976. 4 men fishing on boat in lake, later found to have missing time. Remembered abduction by aliens under regression hypnosis. Medical procedures were performed on them by aliens.

Betty and Barney Hill abduction, 9/1961, Portsmouth, New Hampshire, one of the most famous and well documented alien abduction.

Travis Walton abduction, Arizona, 11/1975. Taken aboard mother ship for 5 days.

Corina Saebels, multiple repeated abductions.

Tremonton film, 1950s, video of fleet of UFOs.

Mariana film, 1950, video of UFOs.

Janos Incident, 6/1978, Gloucester, UK, John Mann and family abducted, taken to mother ship where they saw 10 million aliens. They were told by aliens that their home planet Janos was destroyed by its moon and offered to share propulsion technology in return for permission to land and stay on Earth!

Papua, New Guinea wave, 6/1959. Local priest Father Gill and any locals witnessed around 30-40 UFO sightings. Humanoid entities seen in windows of UFO, who waved back to the people!

Please look up "Die Glocke".

Please look up "Project High Jump".

Please look up "Project Pegasus".

Please look up "Project Montauk".

Please look up "Nazca Lines".

Please look up "Sumerian inscriptions and the Annunaki".

Please look up "Vimanas".

Please read the book or watch the video "Chariots of the gods" if you can.

https://subharanjangupta.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/chariots_of_the_gods1.pdf

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JQwMWEB0sQk

Please watch all seasons of "Ancient Aliens", "George Tsoukolos", "Ancient Aliens - the Ultimate Evidence".

Peace and regards.

[truthseeker11]

Hello readers,

Intellectually adventurous readers please feel free to read the following message from a 6th density/dimension alien to humanity, transmitted to humanity in the 1980s, and judge this material on its own merits. I found striking resemblances with al-quran in its key fundamental messages and came across some other mind boggling material relevant to jinns/aliens and some other scientific stuff. It also mentions Muhammad, Jesus and Moses and gives a hint where the "biblical" teachings originated from!

http://www.llresearch.org/library/the_law_of_one_pdf/the_law_of_one_pdf.aspx

Narrow minded, close minded and dogmatic people should kindly refrain from reading this material!

Peace and regards.

[FreedomStands]

Peace FreedomStands, the prevailing consensus on this subject has so many gaps
that it is difficult to arrive at any sensible collective conclusion.  I will start by enumerating
the characteristics of the jinn and we and other forum members can work from there.

Characteristics of the Jinn

1.  Arrogance

2.  Can talk  6/112       ??

3.  Received messengers  6/130

4.  Have nations or communities

5.  Will end up in heaven or hell

6.  Feel superior for some reason (culture, ethnicity, race, wealth etc.,)

7.  A companion

8.  Intelligent

9.  Refuse to serve man (not worship)

10. Worked for Solomon

and many more................

From this list we can deduce that the jinn are very familiar to us humans.

So who are they?

God bless

               

Many people can use the word to mean anything else, I am using the word to mean a specific type of creature, if you want to call that creature "gimbles" then we will call them "gimbles".

[Man of Faith]

Freedomstands,

They are humans with severed link to God. Could also be called non-spiritual or blind sheep.

Be well