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Re: Bakka/Mecca
« Reply #260 on: July 27, 2015, 03:26:43 PM »
Then those translations suck.  You can crosscheck if you want it does not say "him".

Crosscheck with http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=6&verse=20#(6:20:1)

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Re: Bakka/Mecca
« Reply #261 on: July 27, 2015, 03:28:33 PM »
Then those translations suck.  You can crosscheck if you want it does not say "him".

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Hahaha ... ok so now the translations are wrong.

Btw ... the "it" could also mean "the fact" that the qibla is not the same, as mentioned in earlier verses.

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Re: Bakka/Mecca
« Reply #262 on: July 27, 2015, 03:29:29 PM »
If that's news to you, then you have a long way to go bro.

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Re: Bakka/Mecca
« Reply #263 on: July 27, 2015, 03:30:17 PM »
You don't have to take my word for it.

Crosscheck with http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=6&verse=20#(6:20:1)

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Re: Bakka/Mecca
« Reply #264 on: July 27, 2015, 03:32:07 PM »
Hahaha ... ok so now the translations are wrong.

Btw ... the "it" could also mean "the fact" that the qibla is not the same, as mentioned in earlier verses.

Oh where does it say the qibla is no longer the same?

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Re: Bakka/Mecca
« Reply #265 on: July 27, 2015, 03:34:27 PM »
Oh where does it say the qibla is no longer the same?

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Have you forgotten about the previous verse?

"And even if you bring to those who have been given the Book every sign they would not follow your qiblah, nor can you be a follower of their qiblah, neither are they the followers of each other's qiblah, and if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, then you shall most surely be among the unjust."


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Re: Bakka/Mecca
« Reply #266 on: July 27, 2015, 03:36:42 PM »
And the word change is where?

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Re: Bakka/Mecca
« Reply #267 on: July 27, 2015, 03:38:33 PM »
And the word change is where?

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Were you not quoting the next verse after this?

This is a merry-go-round.

That "it" you want is more related to this part of the verse:

"and if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, then you shall most surely be among the unjust."

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Re: Bakka/Mecca
« Reply #268 on: July 27, 2015, 03:39:46 PM »
You seriously haven't proven how that verse indicates a change in qibla.  Please elaborate how it indicates a change from old to new.  As far as I'm concerned it describes a massive disagreement surrounding the qibla rather than a change from old to new.

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Re: Bakka/Mecca
« Reply #269 on: July 27, 2015, 03:44:23 PM »
You seriously haven't proven how that verse indicates a change in qibla.  Please elaborate how it indicates a change from old to new.  As far as I'm concerned it describes a massive disagreement surrounding the qibla rather than a change from old to new.

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