Bakka/Mecca

[runninglikezebras]

Another question, if you say the m and b are interchangeable, how do you explain the other reference the sectarians distort uses an M and not a B for the supposedly the same placename?  Does Quran contradict?

Peace

[OnlyOneGod]

I'm saying the early muslims had mixed ethnicity, arab, jewish, persian and god knows what else.  I don't deny the later caliphs were mostly arab-centered.  But well we know what Quran says about Arabs and their faith...

Peace

So this mixed ethnicity of arabs, jewish, persian etc got together and decided to create an imaginary place called Mecca. Then decided to make the whole muslim world believe that Islam started from that place. Then forced people to call it their qibla.

When and how did this all actually take place?

[runninglikezebras]

You can read the history of that in the biographies of the early caliphs.  None of which who were appointed by God.

My dear friend at the time Quran was written THERE WAS NO MASJID AL HARAM in mecca!  They constructed this later, put a meteorite in it.  Returned to their arab pagan ways.  Like Quran says some of them will turn on their heels and continue their old polytheistic ways.  I consider you one of them.

Peace

[OnlyOneGod]

Another question, if you say the m and b are interchangeable, how do you explain the other reference the sectarians distort uses an M and not a B for the supposedly the same placename?  Does Quran contradict?

Peace

I'm not saying that Quran contradicts, I'm saying that the name of a place may change over time. Especially when this place became more widely mentioned by people of other nations and arabs of other dialects.

[runninglikezebras]

The entire architecture of the masjid al haram in Mecca is a copy of the second temple that used to be in Jersulem.  Can't you see?  Which is older the second temple or the masjid al haram in mecca?

Peace

[runninglikezebras]

I'm not saying that Quran contradicts, I'm saying that the name of a place may change over time. Especially when this place became more widely mentioned by people of other nations and arabs of other dialects.

It may change over time but no way God will use an m here and a b there to denote the same placename.

Peace

[OnlyOneGod]

You can read the history of that in the biographies of the early caliphs.  None of which who were appointed by God.

My dear friend at the time Quran was written THERE WAS NO MASJID AL HARAM in mecca!  They constructed this later, put a meteorite in it.  Returned to their arab pagan ways.  Like Quran says some of them will turn on their heels and continue their old polytheistic ways.  I consider you one of them.

Peace

Well Allah also talks about people who deal in conjecture. You are trying to make things up without any proof. Good luck with that, i'm sure you'll find many followers.

[runninglikezebras]

I feel like when you are looking at masjid al haram I'm looking at you like you are person who is looking at a replica ferrari with a volkswagen engine under the hood.  But you don't seem to take my word it's not a ferrari.

Peace

[runninglikezebras]

Well Allah also talks about people who deal in conjecture. You are trying to make things up without any proof. Good luck with that, i'm sure you'll find many followers.

Not interested in followers.  I'll leave the mass recruiting to the rock-worshippers.  The way it's meant to be.  Consider me a witness.

Peace

[OnlyOneGod]

It may change over time but no way God will use an m here and a b there to denote the same placename.

Peace

God used the correct place name. You simply do not want to accept it.