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Timotheus

Quote from: JavaLatte on October 12, 2015, 07:37:36 AM
@ Timotheus

May I know how you could finally get away from it?

I mean, how you "clean up" from them. Was that difficult?

Praise be to God, it was nothing i could do, but God saved me from it. I honestly can say i did anything, but turned to God because i was Fearfull and believed that people were going to kill me for leaving their magic cult. after stumbles and hickups God guided me to the right path. I spent 5 and a half months in prison after i turned my back on The cult. Previously the Police were letting me get away with everything and anything because they are all corrupt and part of the cult. It sounds like a deluded conspiracy but its real. well.. a real deluded conspiracy haha

The time in prison was good, all i had was The Quran, so i just kept reading it, every day and night and I started to understand it.

It was and Is hard, I was so much in satans pocket that its been a long journey, However once i learnt some Quran, and to seek refuge in God that helped alot, at first i used to recite the last two surahs, because it gave me a bit of security, gradualy God just seemed to guide me and show me how Satan had decieved me, and that God was actualy in charge.

In terms of How to clean up.. many many times with my face on the ground crying and begging God to save me, to purify me and to help me, the more i trusted the more he did answer my prayers, showed me his signs and helped me. But to be honest i still wonder at how i was saved from it all, realy all credit is to God, it was nothing i could have done, but God has been good to me and realy its a miracle the way i see it.
What could i say that is better than what God has already informed us of?
Follow God
Seek His guidance, the only guidance
Glory and Praise be to God, rabbil Aalameen

JavaLatte

Thank you very much for sharing your story! @ Timotheus

Quote from: Timotheus on October 12, 2015, 09:31:44 PM
In terms of How to clean up.. many many times with my face on the ground crying and begging God to save me, to purify me and to help me, the more i trusted the more he did answer my prayers, showed me his signs and helped me. But to be honest i still wonder at how i was saved from it all, realy all credit is to God, it was nothing i could have done, but God has been good to me and realy its a miracle the way i see it.

Lovely! Praise be to God. May God be your Protector.
[33:72] Verily, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to bear it and they were afraid of it; but man bear it - verily, he was transgressing, ignorant.

Timotheus

Quote from: JavaLatte on October 13, 2015, 05:46:42 AM
Thank you very much for sharing your story! @ Timotheus

Lovely! Praise be to God. May God be your Protector.

All good, any questions feel free to ask. Peace
What could i say that is better than what God has already informed us of?
Follow God
Seek His guidance, the only guidance
Glory and Praise be to God, rabbil Aalameen

Taro Hiroshi

Quote from: JavaLatte on October 12, 2015, 07:37:36 AM
@ Timotheus

May I know how you could finally get away from it?

I mean, how you "clean up" from them. Was that difficult?

Peace JavaLatte,

See the article in this post:

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606694.msg353883#msg353883

You might find it helpful/useful.

JavaLatte

Hiroshi, I don't really care about "Magic", but I believe verse 72:6.

In my view, that's not magic, but evil deed.

For me, the story about shamanism & jinns is not strange anymore.  :)
[33:72] Verily, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to bear it and they were afraid of it; but man bear it - verily, he was transgressing, ignorant.

Timotheus

Quote from: JavaLatte on October 13, 2015, 07:56:51 AM
Hiroshi, I don't really care about "Magic", but I believe verse 72:6.

In my view, that's not magic, but evil deed.

For me, the story about shamanism & jinns is not strange anymore.  :)

that verse is very true. The Quran helped me to uderstand how i had become so lost
What could i say that is better than what God has already informed us of?
Follow God
Seek His guidance, the only guidance
Glory and Praise be to God, rabbil Aalameen

JavaLatte

Quote from: Timotheus on October 14, 2015, 01:53:30 AM
that verse is very true.

*nod

QuoteThe Quran helped me to uderstand how i had become so lost

I think Allah is the True Helper and Who taught you to understand about that.

In my view, the Qur'an is the medium (means) and currently also as the replacement/successor of the messenger.
[33:72] Verily, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to bear it and they were afraid of it; but man bear it - verily, he was transgressing, ignorant.

Taro Hiroshi

Peace JavaLatte,

Quote from: JavaLatte on October 13, 2015, 07:56:51 AM
Hiroshi, I don't really care about "Magic", but I believe verse 72:6.

In my view, that's not magic, but evil deed.

For me, the story about shamanism & jinns is not strange anymore.  :)

Speaking of shamanism, according to the research of some historians, the witches of Europe were remnants of an old shamanic culture of Europe. There might have been a witch-cult in Europe. And some of those who were persecuted as witches might have been followers of a pre-christian religion (or religions) that went underground after the conversions. Also, according to the research of some historians, many witches were men. Thus, witches might have been both men and women.

JavaLatte

Peace Hiroshi,

I suppose there are female shamans in Indonesia, but it seems that most of shamans in my country are males. By the way, what I mean on my post (that you quoted) is that I'm not surprising anymore to hear about shamanism story (the practice of shamanism).

Anyway, I don't believe that every person who claims himself/herself as a shaman is the real shaman. And also, perhaps not all shamans involve the jinn in their practices. I don't know much about those kinds of people (shamans) and I'm not interested to know them close, I better not. I don't support shamanism practice. I think that kind of practice is unrighteous. I prefer to judge thing (whether it is right or wrong) by using righteousness value as basic, because I think that using this method helps a lot to differentiate good from bad (as well as indication of the truthfulness of a person).

Quote from: Taro Hiroshi on May 29, 2016, 10:03:46 PM
And some of those who were persecuted as witches might have been followers of a pre-christian religion (or religions) that went underground after the conversions.

Hmm? that's interesting. I didn't know that.

Peace.
[33:72] Verily, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to bear it and they were afraid of it; but man bear it - verily, he was transgressing, ignorant.