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Started by Jane, July 08, 2014, 03:03:42 PM

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Jane

Peace all,

Firstly I wish to say thank you to Sir Layth as well as to the God :hail for allowing us to have this section.

Not sure why there never was one, but nevermind we have one now :). I thought it would be a good idea to have a place for women-focused discussions but it is not just for my benefit so if you are identifying as a woman please post what you like!

However some things I think should be borne in mind...

1) If you're male then you are reading any threads here at your own risk! Don't complain if you don't like what is said here or if you find anything annoying or even disturbing - as you have been warned. Please allow us to have private conversations here and do not refer to them on other parts of the forum. Please don't copy and paste anything from here in another thread, mention anything any female says here to her on another thread or send any of us a PM referring to anything we have said here.

2) This is supposed to be for women so if you are a girl younger than say 14 years old then it is okay to read but maybe not such a good idea for you to post here. We don't want to have to explain adult stuff to children. Maybe there could be another section if enough younglings are on the forum and want a place to discuss kids' stuff...but that would have to be separate.

3) If you are a woman and you want to post here please identify yourself as female by adding this to your profile so we can see it on the thread. Please no members who are blank next to their name but saying in your post 'I am female' - that's not fair. Either have a profile that reflects it or don't post here. If up until now you have kept your gender anonymous then this may be the time for you to 'come out' lol.

4) This is not a place for gossiping or complaining about men. Or for discussing problems you are having with one unless you genuinely want our opinion on what you should do. Please don't discuss what intimate stuff you do with your husband and ask us whether you think it is right or not either  - like you often get on other religious forums. Generic discussions about intimate stuff or if it is just about you personally is fine; but I don't think it should include intimate information about someone else as a matter of courtesy.

5) Please don't post any images of nudity. I intend to make posts with pictures of clothing and maybe some to do with pregnancy and childbirth that may include images of near naked people but I think totally naked ones are not right. You can always edit the image slightly in a paint programme on your computer before posting it.

6) If you think there is a particular discussion going on that you think would be better on the rest of the forum so that we could get everybody's opinion on it then please suggest that to the thread starter and if she agrees we could always continue the conversation in another section.

7) Please be respectful of other females' opinions and recognise that although we all (presumably) take the Quran as law, we all come from different cultural backgrounds and generations and this may affect how we individually interpret what we read. Sensitivity is advised.

7) I am volunteering myself as an unofficial moderator of this board. Real moderators - please can let me know if you think any of these guidelines are inappropriate or if there should be others included.


Thanks for reading.


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PEACE

savage_carrot

Quote2) This is supposed to be for women so if you are a girl younger than say 14 years old then it is okay to read but maybe not such a good idea for you to post here. We don't want to have to explain adult stuff to children. Maybe there could be another section if enough younglings are on the forum and want a place to discuss kids' stuff...but that would have to be separate.
not sure we have such a policy.
Quote3) If you are a woman and you want to post here please identify yourself as female by adding this to your profile so we can see it on the thread. Please no members who are blank next to their name but saying in your post 'I am female' - that's not fair. Either have a profile that reflects it or don't post here. If up until now you have kept your gender anonymous then this may be the time for you to 'come out' lol.
Don't think this is necessary. If one posts here, then they identify as a female anyways.
Quote5) Please don't post any images of nudity. I intend to make posts with pictures of clothing and maybe some to do with pregnancy and childbirth that may include images of near naked people but I think totally naked ones are not right. You can always edit the image slightly in a paint programme on your computer before posting it.
We already cover these rules etc.

There are more issues I see than the ones I quoted but don't think it's necessary to get into them. I think the way it's described in the blurb is enough for the section:  "This board is restricted to 'ladies only' for related discussions. Brothers are welcome to view - but not participate." Let whoever posts come up with what they want to see discussed and how in their OP's, keeping in mind the forum rules.

i'm editing the title of this thread a bit to avoid misconceptions.
God has a plan, Gaius. He has a plan for everything and everyone.

JavaLatte

Quote from: savage_carrot on July 09, 2014, 05:06:20 AM
Don't think this is necessary. If one posts here, then they identify as a female anyways.

;D

To all brothers out there: Beware Be careful of making post in this women only section!


I'm glad that I am a woman... ~ ♬


Salām.  ?◡?
[33:72] Verily, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to bear it and they were afraid of it; but man bear it - verily, he was transgressing, ignorant.

savage_carrot

You'd be surprised at the lengths some men go to, to be in the women's section. There are instances of men being caught in abayas and stuff in the women only restrooms and areas of public parks for women.

Hopefully accidental male posters in this section won't be called females for the rest of their stay on the forum but that's what you get for not reading the blurbs which take a whole lot of effort :P
God has a plan, Gaius. He has a plan for everything and everyone.

JavaLatte

Quote from: savage_carrot on July 09, 2014, 10:05:47 AM
You'd be surprised at the lengths some men go to, to be in the women's section. There are instances of men being caught in abayas and stuff in the women only restrooms and areas of public parks for women.

Are they so curious until they're willing to wear women's clothing?

Brrr... a man hiding in women's clothes & stuff is kinda creepy-weird...

There may be "successful ones" (who not get caught), and probably consider what they did as adventure. 



QuoteHopefully accidental male posters in this section won't be called females for the rest of their stay on the forum but that's what you get for not reading the blurbs which take a whole lot of effort :P

Maybe it will take hard work some time and more evidences so that other members can believe again that he is a male.  ;)

Let's see if there is male member who "accidentally" make a post here... >:-)


Salām.
[33:72] Verily, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to bear it and they were afraid of it; but man bear it - verily, he was transgressing, ignorant.

huruf

I wouldn't mind as long as they are good looking... Although of course, virtually it might be hard to appreciate.

Salaam

JavaLatte

Quote from: huruf on July 10, 2014, 03:53:03 AM
I wouldn't mind as long as they are good looking... Although of course, virtually it might be hard to appreciate.

:laugh:  ;D  :laugh:


Salām.
[33:72] Verily, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to bear it and they were afraid of it; but man bear it - verily, he was transgressing, ignorant.

savage_carrot

QuoteAre they so curious until they're willing to wear women's clothing?

Brrr... a man hiding in women's clothes & stuff is kinda creepy-weird...

There may be "successful ones" (who not get caught), and probably consider what they did as adventure. 
I don't think it's curiosity, more like perversion in most of the cases...then again, my step father lost a bet once and had to wear it. He has ginger hair with a ginger mustache, and in Karachi, guys staring at women in cars at stop lights is par for the course, so when it happened...he took the veil off and grinned at the guys in the other car...they took off in shock ;D One journalist wore it at a shrine and painted his toenails red too, just to see whether women get accosted in 'holy' places and the answer was, yes, yes they do. To be fair though in his case, they were mostly making disparaging comments about 'her' height and weight, some did cop a feel or two but I'm left wondering if they'd be doing it to any, male or female in the types of crowds these places gather.

QuoteMaybe it will take hard work some time and more evidences so that other members can believe again that he is a male.
We should devise a quiz.

a) Air guitar or the air harp?
b) Chun Li or Vega?
c) Joan Jett or Heart? Satriani or Vai?
d) Mauve or aquamarine?
e) Braveheart or Barry Lyndon?

...and not sure how this is helping differentiate males and females but I'm sure with some thought, we can do it.
God has a plan, Gaius. He has a plan for everything and everyone.

JavaLatte

Quote from: savage_carrot on July 10, 2014, 06:02:46 AM
then again, my step father lost a bet once and had to wear it. He has ginger hair with a ginger mustache, and in Karachi, guys staring at women in cars at stop lights is par for the course, so when it happened...he took the veil off and grinned at the guys in the other car...they took off in shock ;D

That seemed like scene from a funny movie!  :D



QuoteOne journalist wore it at a shrine and painted his toenails red too, just to see whether women get accosted in 'holy' places and the answer was, yes, yes they do. To be fair though in his case, they were mostly making disparaging comments about 'her' height and weight, some did cop a feel or two

But wait wait!

Where such thing happen?  Still in Karachi, Pakistan?

Whether the men there are very rarely seeing women until they couldn't refrain themselves from commenting or even harassing women at the shrine?

I suppose the men who did cop a feel  to woman (other than their spouses/partners) really need to enjoy the electric stun guns (real ones), indeed.



Quotebut I'm left wondering if they'd be doing it to any, male or female in the types of crowds these places gather.

It could be... but not really sure they can get away easily if they're doing it to "the wrong male victims".



QuoteWe should devise a quiz.

a) Air guitar or the air harp?
b) Chun Li or Vega?
c) Joan Jett or Heart? Satriani or Vai?
d) Mauve or aquamarine?
e) Braveheart or Barry Lyndon?

...and not sure how this is helping differentiate males and females but I'm sure with some thought, we can do it.

Perhaps we need more questions to make it more clear...

f) Blue or pink?
g) Boxer of Chihuahua?
h) Lace or chain?
i) Polka dot or army motif?

Any other suggestions for quiz questions are welcome!  ;D 


Salām.
[33:72] Verily, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to bear it and they were afraid of it; but man bear it - verily, he was transgressing, ignorant.

savage_carrot

Quote from: JavaLatte on July 10, 2014, 11:08:35 AM
That seemed like scene from a funny movie!  :D
Yep, I'm sure the guys were left forever scarred however.
QuoteBut wait wait!
Where such thing happen?  Still in Karachi, Pakistan?
Yes.
QuoteWhether the men there are very rarely seeing women until they couldn't refrain themselves from commenting or even harassing women at the shrine?
I suppose the men who did cop a feel  to woman (other than their spouses/partners) really need to enjoy the electric stun guns (real ones), indeed.
Wherever you have somewhat stricter rules for whatever reason regarding the mixing of genders, you have this sort of stuff going on. It gets to be so bad that even innocuous things take on a sexual identity of their own. True, there are always punishments but only so far they can go. Understanding, exposure (no pun intended), tolerance and education will help to avoid some of the issues to some extent. 
QuoteIt could be... but not really sure they can get away easily if they're doing it to "the wrong male victims".
Haha true.
QuotePerhaps we need more questions to make it more clear...

f) Blue or pink?
g) Boxer of Chihuahua?
h) Lace or chain?
i) Polka dot or army motif?

Any other suggestions for quiz questions are welcome!  ;D 
Salām.
Good, good, we'll have a master list soon that will sniff out maleness like a crazed bloodhound!
God has a plan, Gaius. He has a plan for everything and everyone.