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Thoughts on the 'Caliphate' declared by ISIS?

Started by Crow, June 30, 2014, 05:51:38 PM

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عوني

Quote from: Jafar on July 01, 2014, 02:46:42 AM
Then what are you doing here?
Go there! Go to Iraq or Syria! Join them!  Now!
First secure the area in Iraq + Syria only then you guys can spread to other area, Saudi Arabia, Jordan etc..
Or even if ISIS eventually kicked out from Iraq + Syria you guys can always find safe haven in Saudi Arabia.

And when you failed and die, you'll get heaven and 72 virgins.
So what are you waiting for? Don't waste time.. heaven and 72 virgins is waiting..

Latest Warplan of your glorious Thagut Caliph.



Religion of Islam itself was born from the result of 'twisting'. (and so does Christianity for that matter)
It happened around 1400 years ago..
When Jahilism and it's follower hijacked the message of Muhammad and turn it into an ideology for invasion, raid, robbery, slaughter and world domination.


Believe me, I'd not want this savage in my homeland or Iraq. He can Immigrate to Europe instead and live on welfare like all the other jihadists. Indeed all jihadists who travel to Syria and Iraq will end up dead. He should Immigrate to Denmark or Britain instead - that's where all the religious nutjobs belong. They can have their sex-jihad there. They will be definently welcomed in Denmark and Britain.


QuoteOr even if ISIS eventually kicked out from Iraq + Syria you guys can always find safe haven in Saudi Arabia.

True true but that is only if Abdullah is still in controll. I hope Abdullah and all the religious nutjobs falls then funds will probaly stop going to ISIS and there will be no safe haven for them. But I don't think Abdullah will keep ISIS in his country because Jabba the hut/Abdullah the savage is smart enough to know that Islamists is never good having in ones country. He will only send them as cannonfodder but never keep them in his country which is the reason why he keeps them in Europe instead.

QuoteAnd when you failed and die, you'll get heaven and 72 virgins.
So what are you waiting for? Don't waste time.. heaven and 72 virgins is waiting..

ISIS and their supporters always pretend to fear God only but then they run away like cowards from the battlefields when they see the Iraqi military helicopters approaching. They seem to fear the Iraqi army more than God and they should.

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Latest Warplan of your glorious Thagut Caliph.


I think this map is a bit outdated though. They don't controll parts of Aleppo anymore infact there are no more ISIS headquarters there but there are some fighters remaining who are hiding like cowards. The FSA and the Syrian army has kicked out ISIS from Aleppo but still you might see some flags raised from some ISIS remaining soldiers who are probaly dead by now. If the moderate FSA and the Syrian army get along they can obliterate ISIS completly.

huruf

I think he is a pid intoxicator, paid on public money by one of those services that participate in things like the 11m or 911. They always have public employees or expendable paid workforce to do that kind of thing, and to fish in troubled waters.

Nobody real can be that clown.

Salaam



عوني

Quote from: David Saidi on July 01, 2014, 03:50:50 AM
Actually I'm bored for reply this kind of news, since the battle is still ongoing
Iraq Safawi armies recapture Tikrit is still a dream : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw8spRLdN2A

I taunt you who is the winner before Eid al Fitr?? inshaAllah the mujahideen will conquer the Baghdad soon enough



According to a Swedish newspaper the Iraqi army has recaptured Tikrit from ISIS:

http://www.svd.se/nyheter/utrikes/irakisk-militar-atertar-tikrit-fran-isis_3699946.svd


Regardless if they've captured Tikrit or not yet this still confirms that they are making huge advances especially in Tikrit.

I do believe that the Iraqi army has recaptured Tikrit but not fully yet as there are some ISIS-militants remaining(probaly hiding) and then you have ISIS trying to capture it again which explains why there are clashes near and inside but are failing hard time as they're are being destroyed by the Iraqi air force. It will be much easier for the Iraqi army now to locate ISIS and destroy them on sight.

The only way ISIS can attack the Iraqi army is through cowardly suicide bombers.

QuoteinshaAllah the mujahideen will conquer the Baghdad soon enough

With photoshop yes. Your ISIS will never conquer Baghdad... Keep dreaming meanwhile ISIS militants are getting killed everyday like that pathetic ISIS Chechen leader that was recently killed.


Nyoks

David Saidi,

Only Allah can guide you. My very angry person will not dignify you by responding to such vitriol, except to share with you the words of the Quran which I believe you read:

Al Baqara 11-12: " When it is said to them, 'Do not disturb the peace of the land', they say 'We are simply setting things right...12) Beware! They alone are the peace breakers, but they do not perceive..."

Nyoks

Jafar

Quote from: عوني on July 01, 2014, 03:57:52 AM
True true but that is only if Abdullah is still in controll. I hope Abdullah and all the religious nutjobs falls then funds will probaly stop going to ISIS and there will be no safe haven for them. But I don't think Abdullah will keep ISIS in his country because Jabba the hut/Abdullah the savage is smart enough to know that Islamists is never good having in ones country. He will only send them as cannonfodder but never keep them in his country which is the reason why he keeps them in Europe instead.

The 'interesting' development here is that ISIS is running towards Saudi's border as we speak.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2014/06/27/ISIS-has-reached-the-border-of-Saudi-Arabia.html

Jabba do knows that ISIS only brings problem.
That's because he's the one paying them.. he pay them to cause problems, on Iraq and Syria..
But now they're running towards their 'master' and definitely eager to cause problem to the master itself.

Repeating the 'observable pattern' in the past.
The 'secret weapon' shall eventually backfired against it's own master.

So.. expect 'suicide bombing' coming to Riyadh, Istanbul and Doha real soon...
And perhaps as far as Washington and London too..

Salam / Peace

Man of Faith

David Saidi,

Allah does not support mischief and oppression so The Master is not on that side. Without God's support you cannot win against the whole world that would turn against you if you tried to do the thing that Nazi Germany did.

Heretic you can be yourself for supporting things God does not stand by.

Peace out
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JavaLatte

Quote from: David Saidi on July 01, 2014, 03:50:38 AM
I believe Allah never accepted your dua

We shall see...


QuoteSecularist, liberalist/JIL, Quraniyoon, their home only in West Java or Jakarta.
So you can create your own secular country like Republic of West Java or Republic of Jakarta maybe.....

Another ridiculous claim.

Where do you live actually??  Are you living in a fantasy world?

Did you forget Bali?

You think the people of Bali will support you?

You think Central Java, Yogyakarta, and East Java will support you?

You think other provinces in Borneo, Sumatra, Sulawesi, and Papua will support you?

I don't think so, because that's quite obvious.


QuoteYou just ignore the fact : 7 of 10 Indonesian muslims support sharia
                                      http://www.arrahmah.com/news/2013/05/03/studi-pew-tujuh-dari-sepuluh-muslim-indonesia-menginginkan-syariah-islam-sebagai-landasan-hukum.html

That's just a bit of  fuzzy news you took from pro-hadith and pro-"jihad" site.

And you use it to represent the entire citizens of Indonesia who live in various islands with diverse cultures??

Silly, very silly.


Don't you see that there are still many of Indonesian women (in various areas) who don't wear "hijab"?

Don't you know that many of Indonesian people love various entertainments, such as performances and musics?

Don't you realize that if your gangster try to conquer Indonesia, then most likely the citizens and government troops will fight together to crush your brainwashed troops?

The big part of Indonesian citizens are not willing to live in the confinement of sharia law.

Have you forgotten that our nation has very diverse customs/traditions.

I ever lived in Sumatra, and I've visited Borneo, so you cannot easy fool me about this issue. I'm pretty sure that most Indonesian people want moderate Islam.

The fact shows that now a lot of people eager to follow the Presidential election.

They want to elect a President - not a Caliph.

It shows that there are still many people who support the current type of government.


Btw Saidi...

If you want another irony, then I found interesting news from the site you put above to back up yourself.

I found that the site also contain a news which shows that they don't support ISIS.


ISIS reportedly killed mujahidin in Homs

http://www.arrahmah.com/news/2014/06/30/isis-dikabarkan-membunuhi-mujahidin-di-homs.html


So, your dear ISIS also killed the mujahidin, huh?
[33:72] Verily, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to bear it and they were afraid of it; but man bear it - verily, he was transgressing, ignorant.

Lena

Quote from: David Saidi on July 01, 2014, 12:20:24 AM
PDF version : http://justpaste.it/pdf/g178-justpaste-it.pdf (English)
Original       : ia601509.us.archive.org/12/items/ar_Wa3d/wa3d.mp3
                     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTiqYjulJik

Start from this time, ISIS/L chage it's name as ISIS/L.
Jihad territories will expanded from Sham to global Islamic territories



Peace   I am Muslim, submit to God Alone, and do my best to follow Gods laws and guidance from Quran. I do not follow any other source of religious laws or guidance outside of Quran. I do not accept the " caliphate" the "Islamic State" is trying to impose on Me for the following reasons:  God's laws and guidance in Quran 2: 256 say there is no compulsion in religion. God gives an example in Quran 7:88 of the futility of forcing religious beliefs on others. Also God says in 10:99 "had your Lord willed, all the people on earth would have believed. Do you want to force the people to become believers?" If you murder peaceful disbelievers then you are depriving them of their God given rights to change, repent and become believers at any time in the future.
I see in your posts that you call yourself a "Sunni".  God says in Quran 6:159 "those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with you. Their judgement rests with God then he will inform them of everything they had done".
Sects in Islam include Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Abaathi, and others. God does not say to kill these people. god says He will be their judge. The fighters from Islamic State is going against God when they judge and kill Shia and others who say they are Muslim. God says in Quran 2:190-191 and in many other verses that Muslims must never be the aggressors or oppressors. They are only allowed to fight back if physically attacked first and can only use the necessary force to disable their opponents. If the enemy stops fighting and seeks peace Muslims must stop fighting them. If the aggression is verbal or mockery God says in Quran for Muslims to say "Peace" and  to turn away and the ignorant. ISlamic State does not follow any of these Quranic principles. You said those who mock Islam are murdered. God says to murder even one innocent person is the same as murdering all of mankind.
Islamic State takes sources other than God for their religious laws and guidance ( Imams, religious scholars and man made Hadith books compiled 200 years after the death of Prophet Muhammed). Quran 25: 30 "My Lord, my people will desert this Quran". God tells us the Quran is fully detailed, it is the best Hadith and Quran 7:185 God says " which Hadith besides this do you believe in?"
God warns against setting up religious leaders and scholars as lords, instead of God,  in Quran 9:31
The caliphate leader and fighters seem to me to be far astray from Gods laws and guidance in Quran and that is why as a Muslim I cannot have any allegiance to the "caliphate of Islamic State. Please can you explain why your group does not follow Gods laws and  Quranic principles, and why you follow sources outside if Quran that are not from God.


Zulf

The sunnatullah will not allow evil and filth to conquer the world. Yes, the devil is allowed to play till the end, but there are natural laws in place... goodness will always outdo evil no matter what. ISIS will be allowed to play a bit, the it will be crushed. Allah and Allah's forces don't sleep.

And 'David Saidi'.... why such an "un-islamic" nick?

:yuck:
If you name me, you negate me.

Habibullah

Quote from: David Saidi on July 01, 2014, 12:20:24 AM


Sahih Muslim Book 024, Number 5213:   

Ibn Umar reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon hirn) had made for himself a gold ring; then lie discarded it. and then made for himself a silver ring and had these words engraved upon it (Mubammad, Messenger of Allah), and said: No one should engrave anything like the engraving of this signet ring of mine. and when he Wore it he kept its stone towards the inside of his palm, and it was this which fell down (from the hands) of Mu'ayqib into the well of Aris.


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