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Started by sword of tashayyu, June 06, 2014, 03:34:46 AM

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sword of tashayyu

Peace be upon you!

I would like to pose this question to the Quranists in this forum, why wasnt the Mushaf compiled in chronological order?  Does the current arrangement promotes better understanding?
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muslims


Yes, the chronological order of the revelation is very crucial to our understanding of the Quran.

. . .

Therefore, I would like to ask the same thing . . . why?

and why the free-mind translation is following the man-made order of the Quran ?

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Bender

Quote from: sword of tashayyu on June 06, 2014, 03:34:46 AM
Peace be upon you!

I would like to pose this question to the Quranists in this forum, why wasnt the Mushaf compiled in chronological order?  Does the current arrangement promotes better understanding?
Quote from: muslims on June 06, 2014, 05:06:24 AM
Yes, the chronological order of the revelation is very crucial to our understanding of the Quran.

. . .

Therefore, I would like to ask the same thing . . . why?

and why the free-mind translation is following the man-made order of the Quran ?


Salaam,


The Quran is not a biography of someone or a description of some event.

Salaam,
Bender
Alhamdu lillahi rabbi al-alameen

sword of tashayyu

The arrangement is clearly man-made and Free Mind is following it freely.

Name me one book which isnt arranged chronologically and yet it is crystal clear in its meaning and context?
And Allah sufficed the believers in their fight through Ali bin Abi Talib...

muslims

Quote from: Bender on June 06, 2014, 05:41:11 AMThe Quran is not a biography of someone or a description of some event.

I think it is, the Quran shows us how a man is guided by God to be on the straight path,

and so that he know the priority (the awwaliyah) of the commands

so he that know how to balance (hikmah) the commands of Allah in different kinds of situation

and he is not the first because before him there are Jesus and Moses, and other messengers of Allah, it is all an event. .

[url=http://muslimatheism.org]Muslim Atheism[/url] is a theological position for the disbelief in god, religion and the unspecific
but the practical philosophy from the Quran are followed

Man of Faith

Peace,

Can anyone here prove what kind of order the chapters were supposed to be in?

Despite that it does not really matter in what order they are. It does not change anything.

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muslims


People could start to compare the chronological order of the verses and the chronological facts from the Quran

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Chronological_Order_of_the_Qur'an

However, that is not the real issue. . .

The real issue is why following the man made order of the verses when God sent the revelations chronologically ?

This order is crucial to the understanding of the Quran, it is much equal to the syllabus for the whole programme . . . .

The programme to be on the "straight path". . . and it is part of the understanding of "al-hikmah"

[url=http://muslimatheism.org]Muslim Atheism[/url] is a theological position for the disbelief in god, religion and the unspecific
but the practical philosophy from the Quran are followed

Bender

Quote from: sword of tashayyu on June 06, 2014, 06:05:30 AM
The arrangement is clearly man-made and Free Mind is following it freely.

Salaam,

Then it would not be hard for you to show me  clear evidence for this claim, thank you!!!


QuoteName me one book which isnt arranged chronologically and yet it is crystal clear in its meaning and context?

not sure what you mean, but any mathbook for example is not in a chronological order and yet they are  very clear in their meaning and context.

salaam,
Bender
Alhamdu lillahi rabbi al-alameen

Bender

Quote from: muslims on June 06, 2014, 06:08:16 AM
I think it is, the Quran shows us how a man is guided by God to be on the straight path,

and so that he know the priority (the awwaliyah) of the commands

so he that know how to balance (hikmah) the commands of Allah in different kinds of situation

and he is not the first because before him there are Jesus and Moses, and other messengers of Allah, it is all an event. .

Salaam,

a man? who?

Salaam,
Bender
Alhamdu lillahi rabbi al-alameen

muslims

Quote from: Bender on June 06, 2014, 07:09:30 AM
a man? who?

Is this how you prove your contention?  ie. by diverting from the real issue and using the fallacy of irrelevant conclusion, the ignoratio elenchi.

If we want to decide or discuss who is that man, then start  a new thread with a title "Who is the last Prophet"? . . . .

. . .

What is obvious here is that the chapters in the Quran is not in its original order. . . this is the issue of this thread.

and it is "not hard" for anyone to prove this claim!

Quote from: Bender on June 06, 2014, 07:07:46 AM
Then it would not be hard for you to show me  clear evidence for this claim, thank you!!!

thank you!!!

[url=http://muslimatheism.org]Muslim Atheism[/url] is a theological position for the disbelief in god, religion and the unspecific
but the practical philosophy from the Quran are followed