A Muslim from Bangladesh.

[IjazAhmad]

Previously I was this,

Salamun Alaikum 





The flag is hilarious! I'm saving it to my desktop 

[Reee]

The Holocaust was an example of a payback because if they had been righteous then they had been protected. Every time the Children of Israel kept sinning they were struck heavily both in the past and in World War 2. They have an inheritance and a seemingly permanent blessing so they obviously come back. And there are surely quite a bunch of Jews that are righteous just as there are righteous Muslims or righteous Christians, but we must realize the blunt truth even if it hurts and we cannot be blind to it because we do not want to hear.

So that would mean the Nazis were the rightous executors of God' will?
Maybe you don't know about history, but there were masses of children killed, who had not done anything. You have to believe in original sin to have any justfication for that...
The state of Isreal was founded AFTER the Holocaust, and the Holocaust strengthened the Zionists as they got kind of moral legitimation for the injustice they were about to commit, as the injustice done to the jews was still bigger (which is no justification for the injustice against the palestinians of course).
If you want to gove any sense to the Holocaust (and yes, we have to give sense to everything), then it was a test to those who could ahve helped to prevent it, and most people (not only in Germany, but in many other countries, e.g. those taht did not let in refugees) failed.

[Man of Faith]

Peace,

I am quite educated in that. I think you try to infer the worst possible interpretation of what I wrote. I know not only Jews were murdered and Adolf Hitler and company were committing grave atrocities. What I wanted to convey was that still it was primarily Jews executed and I know Jews have not played their cards right or God would be on their side. Heck you see that they do not even have their own lands except what others prepared for them. ou can clearly see that Jews ride on their Covenant while returning but little in God consciousness, for most of them.

But I can give criticism to other receivers of the decree too as it is not only them, but in this case it was Jews. And Jews are blessed plentifully and a people with possessions can be dangerous if unrighteous. We see evidence of that in the word. Anyone unrighteous with wealth is dangerous.

I am certain that there are righteous Jews out there as in every group.

EDIT: Jews were prosperous before World War 2. Why do you think the persecution of Jews originally begun? Because of jealousy and it escalated into racism. One Jew, in the 19th century I think, took control over Bank of England and you should know what kind of global control people of Jewish origin have in the "Western World".

God bless you

[amin]

Ironman,

Follow the signs, the signs are right before you, not only in any one book.
our life and our approach should be balanced, means adapt to conditions and that is peace(Islam) and that will take you to heaven.
All the best in your journey.

[Reee]

Salam,
Please don't feel attacked. I just take the points that seem dangerous to me, like this one:

EDIT: Jews were prosperous before World War 2. Why do you think the persecution of Jews originally begun? Because of jealousy and it escalated into racism. One Jew, in the 19th century I think, took control over Bank of England and you should know what kind of global control people of Jewish origin have in the "Western World".

Not all jews were prosperous. There were also the poor jews of the "Schtetl" in Eastern Europe, and the ones migrating from there to cities like Berline where they lived in dark, filthy backyards, like any other poor people. It was the pseudo-anticapitalist propaganda of the nazis that all jews were banker etc.

[Man of Faith]

Peace,

Absolutely. There are poor ones too. Some propaganda was generated by the Nazi's but everything in my discussion is not with only World War 2 as a basis and it is undeniable that a certain group of Jews, even if not all, incredibly wealthy and controlling a huge lot of the market.

The Hitler regime enlarged the Jewish prosperity but they were still not entirely wrong. To massacre millions on that basis is of course crazy. But the Jews at that time were to be reckoned with in terms of possessions even if unevenly distributed (as always) and a righteous Jewish tribe would obviously shared their wealth between them as in the real shining periods of Jewish history.

Anyway, my intention was to delve into the negative aspects of traditional Jewish faith and the invented "603" laws and its effect on the promise by the Jewish ancestors, and to uphold the teachings of Moses. They were historically (according to the book called Quran) blessed beyond measure particularly thanks to Abraham's apparently good prayer a long time ago and they "got a good deal" on that mountain. This covenant is still in effect and Jews can ride on it (even though certain Jews are poor anyway). Wealth is not all that matters and God made some people poor while others rich. And it is not news that Jews have failed to keep their pledge many times and twice the pride twice the fall.

But exactly the same thing is happening in traditional Islam with the wealthy Saudi king and the extremely corrupt condition of God's decree drowning in tons of fairy tales. Note the difference that the tribe of Israel had a powerful blessing to their people and that was what I was discussing and showing that these people virtually control the world. That does not say it is good they are doing.

I am sure that if the Jews united as a righteous state again they would show the same buffs as in the past but unfortunately most are not believers (as with all people).

God bless you

[ironman]

Thanks everybody for suggestions. Actually I am not an anti-Jew man. I know the diversity of human being, diversity from so different aspects. I can not blame the whole Jew community for a handful one. If I can, then the biggest question would be,

Are there any human left in this planet as everyone would be a pathetic cruel animal, as generalization says so?

Now what I really hate, is the "deeds", "ideology"; the bad deed and bad ideology. You see, the dogs who consider themselves superior because of their race, should be counter-considered as inferior creature by peaceful mind. Might sound contrary to Gandhism or Buddhism, but I don't care. I call it justice. The same way who think,

tax should be imposed to other humans because of his/her religion

, should be treated equally counter-wise. Meaning similar tax will be imposed to them for similar cause. Beard-tax, circumcision tax, vail/sack tax how about those? They can live and practice judai/sunni/shia/christians, just they must have to pay certain price. NOT A BIG HISTORICAL ISSUE AT ALL!!! No "humanic" exception.

Those men who think girls should be teased or raped or those who sympathize rapists, because the girl is not wearing modest black sack, I would like to witness ,"those men" be gang raped by she-males and gays and animals. Then I would like to say to them cheerfully,

Bro, you should hide your abs and muscle. Also the hair. Also your teeth. As these organs provoked T and Gays.

Those human who killed the rape victims and adulterous by stoning, should be counter-stoned one-by-one down to the dogs same way, by the fellow stone-throwers(who participated). This nice recursion will continue until just one human lives to tell the horror to their Zionist-Islamist-Church friends.

Those who burnt females accusing them as witch, must be burnt at the stakes, in front of a church(and their padris-popes).

So ladies and gentleman, you got it. I want the reverse wheel. I hate Judaism along with the pathetic Talmud. It is not the Jews/Christians/Sunnis/Shia/Buddhist/Atheist "person" I hate, it is the deeds which reacts so violently with me.

There is a judgement day, isn't there? I swear by the every atom HE created, every named HE has: I will leave none. I will demand justice. I will never forget, never forgive. Not my own kin, not my own family, not even me.

Know of what I think, sometimes?   

A part time job in hell!

I was not like this. Had a heart for everyone. As I came to know things, the histories, I can not go back. I was like:

Living with HIM this life and the life hereafter happily. Trying to love everything HE created. Always try to do things which makes HIM happy.

But now I think I want someone to suffer too.