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Big Bang, God and Pantheism

Started by Recluse, April 12, 2016, 07:05:24 PM

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Recluse

Quote from: Man of Faith on April 18, 2016, 01:38:29 AM

Well, through ascension you will sense the primitive nature of people around you who have not managed to get out of their little shell. Even so-called educated people are not so smart, even if they have stored a lot of concrete information.

Be well
Amenuel

Hi Amenuel,

That is so true, because I've come across maybe thousands of well-educated but "dumb" people, lol. Apparently thinking logically without involving too much of your emotions and bias is very hard for humans.

Interestingly, when I look back at some of the things I said here on this forum a few years ago, I now feel ashamed.
I saw an idiotic response of mine in 2012 to our member Jafar about his views on the Qur'an, for example. My reply had nothing to do with logic or facts, but I reacted purely emotionally in a desperate attempt to "defend" the infallible Qur'an against "kuffar" like Jafar who dared to question the book. Humans are funny creatures, we are so insecure and weak :) Although this happened back in 2012, I would like to apologize to Jafar and ask for his forgiveness...  :rotfl: :)

Peace,

?zcan


Recluse

Quote from: Jafar on April 18, 2016, 09:53:52 AM
Panentheism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism
God interpenetrates every part of the universe and extends, timelessly and spacelessly beyond it

Pantheism : God = Universe
Panentheism : God = Universes + More

Big Bang is the beginning of THIS time and THIS space.
Prior to big bang there was no THIS time or THIS space..

Yet there might be 1,0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 (it's actually unlimited) other universes each with their own TIME and their own SPACE.
And God (The True God that is) control all of it.

He has no enemy in any of those universes or anything in any of those universe happened without in accordance to his knowing or his plan.

Thanks Jafar,

Panentheism makes much more sense to me..

I will check this out...

Peace,

?zcan

Man of Faith

As far as I am concerned the prefix pan means everything. I find the term Panentheism to be unnecessary personally. I have contemplated on it before. Pan- means that it incorporates everything/all no matter if it is plural or not, and/or another dimension or universe.

Panentheism, as I have interpreted the term, would create a differentiation between Rabb and whatever else but there is none, Being (Allah) is One, there is one Being, one image.

Be well
Amenuel
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reel

QuotePantheism : God = Universe
Panentheism : God = Universes + More
I have a habit of making spelling error when it comes to those two  :brickwall:
"I fear that nothing will lead me to hell more than ḥadīth"-Hadith collector: Shu'ba Ibn al-Ḥajjāj

Comrox

Interesting thread. I agree with this. Since coming back to faith I've always seen God as pantheistic.
10:109 Follow what is being inspired to you and be patient until God judges.

57:3 He is the First and the Last, the Evident and the Innermost. And He is fully aware of all things.

IAMOP

Quote from: Recluse on April 18, 2016, 10:32:01 AM
Hi Amenuel,

That is so true, because I've come across maybe thousands of well-educated but "dumb" people, lol. Apparently thinking logically without involving too much of your emotions and bias is very hard for humans.

Interestingly, when I look back at some of the things I said here on this forum a few years ago, I now feel ashamed.
I saw an idiotic response of mine in 2012 to our member Jafar about his views on the Qur'an, for example. My reply had nothing to do with logic or facts, but I reacted purely emotionally in a desperate attempt to "defend" the infallible Qur'an against "kuffar" like Jafar who dared to question the book. Humans are funny creatures, we are so insecure and weak :) Although this happened back in 2012, I would like to apologize to Jafar and ask for his forgiveness...  :rotfl: :)

Peace,

?zcan

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So shall you enter your grave and arise to the last


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