Author Topic: (video) Rashad claimed he RECEIVED DIVINE SCRIPTURE! Yet he wasn't nabi? Lies!  (Read 2522 times)

seattletruth

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Before you say I am lying, I am not making this up. I have video proof that Rashad actually claimed that he received scripture from God. He says that his translation is the infallible "WORD OF GOD". Incredibly, he even claims that the FIRST edition of his translation (which he later changed 2 more times) is still the perfect WORD OF GOD, not his own words!

Watch this video for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiqqOsc6Ay0&NR


Here's some glorious excerpts, WORD FOR WORD:

"The first translation is an 'authorized translation'. This translation; every word here IS THE WORD OF GOD. This is not my work. This is not MY translation, this is GOD'S TRANSLATION."


Rashad justifies his claim that even his FIRST translation of the Quran was still the "word of God", because he says "God delivers his message in stages, even in the 'ORIGINAL QURAN', which prophet Muhammad delivered". So he says that God's revelation to him was changing, in stages, but each one was SCRIPTURE FROM GOD.

He actually refers to Muhammad's Quran as the "original Quran" because he TRULY BELIEVES that Allah sent down to him the NEW Quran.. His "Authorized English Translation". WHAT A LIE!!!!!! There is only ONE Quran, and it is in Arabic!

Furthermore, Rashad's claim makes absolutely ZERO sense, because he only claimed to be a Rasul. Rashad even claimed in his OWN TRANSLATION, that Muhammad was the "seal of prophets" (i.e. the last to receive scripture!). Rashad even argues that nabi means "one who receives scripture". So, how on earth can Rashad argue that there can be NO PROPHETS after Muhammad, yet he claims that he specifically received scripture, in 3 DIFFERENT STAGES??!! That's how we know that this is a lie!! Either Allah is lying when he said that Muhammad is the seal of prophets, or Rashad is lying when he claims he received new scripture! Who is lying? Allah or Rashad?

Rashad actually claims he received 3 seperate scriptures FROM A DIVINE SOURCE, not to mention his 38 appendices, the words added in parenthesis in the Quran, the footnotes, the headers, etc. This classifies his Quran as scripture, because there are hundreds of words omitted in his translation, thousands of words added (some in parenthesis), thousands of footnotes, headers, and hundreds of words changed from their literal meaning. This means if it WAS written by God, it MUST be classified as new scripture. But that's impossible because even Rashad claims that Muhammad was the last nabi / prophet!


Furthermore, it's impossible for Rashad to have been the chosen messenger of an ENGLISH Quran, when it's specifically stated that messengers come speaking their native language. Rashad was not a native English speaker, by any stretch of the imagination, which is mostly why his translations (all 3) were ripe with grammatical errors like saying "how come" instead of "why".

Rashad's own translation states:


[14:4] We did not send any messenger except (to preach) in the tongue of his people, in order to clarify things for them. GOD then sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills. He is the Almighty, the Most Wise.


Because Rashad was not a native English speaker, he could not have possibly been the messenger chosen to deliver an ENGLISH Quran, supposedly "authored by God".


Also, I must bring to light the FACT that it's impossible for there to be an English Quran which was authored by God, because even in Rashad's own translation, it's specified that the ONLY Quran is in Arabic, NOT English!
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[12:2] We have revealed it an Arabic Quran, that you may understand.
[20:113] We thus revealed it, an Arabic Quran, and we cited in it all kinds of prophecies, that they may be saved, or it may cause them to take heed.
[39:28] An Arabic Quran, without any ambiguity, that they may be righteous.
[41:3] A scripture whose verses provide the complete details, in an Arabic Quran, for people who know.



If this English translation of the Quran was truly new scripture from God, why would it still be referred to as an ARABIC Quran.??

If this truly was an English Quran, written by GOD, it would be referred to as an ENGLISH Quran. Look at verse 39:28 again:

[39:28] An Arabic Quran, without any ambiguity,

It's kind of ambiguous that an ENGLISH Quran written by God would be referred to repetitively as an ARABIC QURAN , don't you think? If that were the case, it would be the epitome of "ambiguity" -- and the definition is: "Doubtful or uncertain".

The reason it's called an ARABIC Quran repetitively, even in this "divinely authored" translation is because the ONLY QURAN AUTHORED BY ALLAH IS IN ARABIC.

Anything else is simply written by man.




Moreover, Rashad's OWN WEBSITE claims that Messengers CANNOT "receive their message in stages", as Rashad has specifically said:
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:KPTr5ynSdksJ:www.submission.org/friday/followthemessenger.html

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Messengers have been sent by God almighty with one message: there is no god except God, worship Him alone. The Quran clearly expresses that one message of God, and explicitly narrates the history of His messengers, since Noah, delivering that same one message to humanity.

One God/One Message/One Religion
[21:25] We did not send any messenger before you except with the inspiration: "There is no god except Me; you shall worship Me alone."

[16:36] We have sent a messenger to every community, saying, "You shall worship GOD, and avoid idolatry." Subsequently, some were guided by GOD, while others were committed to straying. Roam the earth and note the consequences for the rejectors.


Messengers are not given inspiration in stages. Messengers are only given the SINGLE MESSAGE: There is but ONE God, and you should worship HIM ALONE.

Prophets are the only ones that receive revelation in stages, and Rashad was not a prophet.



Let's look for more Quranic proof:

Think about it. Moses became a MESSENGER, before he became a prophet!

Moses was the messenger to the Pharaoh, before any revelations/scripture had been revealed to him. What was his message??? WORSHIP ONLY GOD! He only later became a prophet.


Let's define "scripture", in the divine context:

Scripture is a divine inspiration/revelation which is meant to be delivered to the people.

Rashad is claiming that his translations were a divine inspiration which was meant to be delivered to the people.

THEREFOR Rashad claimed to have recieved divine scripture! This is impossible because Muhammad SAAW was the last nabi.

It's a simple "IF ---> THEN" logical progression that is undeniable and irrefutable. IF it was authored by God, THEN it is new scripture.

IF it's not new scripture, THEN it wasn't authored by God!

If it wasn't authored by God, then Rashad is one of the most evil type of humans there are, according to the Quran itself!

It was specified in his own translation:


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   2:79 Therefore, woe to those who distort the scripture with their own hands, then say, "This is what GOD has revealed," seeking a cheap material gain. Woe to them for such distortion, and woe to them for their illicit gains.

[11:18] Who are more evil than those who fabricate lies about GOD? They will be presented before their Lord, and the witnesses will say, "These are the ones who lied about their Lord. GOD's condemnation has befallen the transgressors."

Even ironically, Rashad claimed in his own translation, with the header:

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   False Messengers Condemned
    6:93 Who is more evil than one who fabricates lies and attributes them to GOD, or says, "I have received divine inspiration," when no such inspiration was given to him, or says, "I can write the same as GOD's revelations?" If only you could see the transgressors at the time of death! The angels extend their hands to them, saying, "Let go of your souls. Today, you have incurred a shameful retribution for saying about GOD other than the truth, and for being too arrogant to accept His revelations.

Hmm.. Shouldn't that read FALSE PROPHETS CONDEMNED? According to Rashad, messengers don't receive scripture!

And also:

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[46:8] When they say, "He fabricated this," say, "If I fabricated this, then you cannot protect me from GOD. He is fully aware of everything you scheme. He suffices as a witness between me and you. He is the Forgiver, Most Merciful."


Finally, the biggest proof that Rashad's English translation could NOT have been written by God is:

God would NOT authorize a Quran claiming that Satan is a "temporary God on earth" and that "God cannot be in this universe", while simultaneously claiming that God is "omnipresent" (i.e. present EVERYWHERE).


The Rashadian Kool-Aid drinkers need to wake up and smell the fact that he was a deceived LIAR.



david_rs_aitken

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Peace Seattletruth,

This is just another example, obvious to those who use the minds given to them by the god, of how the counting of 19 leads to nothing but affliction. Khalifa was duped by his own deception.

6:93
Who is more wicked than one who invents lies about the god, or says: "It has been inspired to me," when we did not inspire anything to him; or who says:
"I will bring down the same as what the god has sent down."
If you could only see the wicked at the moments of death when the controllers have their arms opened:
"Bring yourselves out, today you will be given the severest punishment for what you used to say about the god without truth, and you used to be arrogant towards his signs."


His translation is riddled with errors, especially surrounding anything to do with numbers, and his alleged messengership. There is no such thing as "an authorized quran/reading." A reading is either by the god, or not. There was never a reading in history that was the work of a human being, and then the god stamped it "authorized". The reading (al-quran) was inspired by our lord to Muhammad. The reading (al-quran) is from our lord, Khalifa's manipulative translation is not.

Peace,

-David

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The messengers of GOD also get insparation (devine messege) and messengers are warners and bring good news to those hoe believe, thay proof there messengershipe by form of a miricule (I.e salieg) . Rashad also proofed his messengershipe by revealing the code 19 witch was a insparation from ALLAAH : THE SAME MESSEGE INSIDE the same SCRIPTURE that the last profet brought 1400 years ago.(the greatest miricule of all miricules : see surah 74)
The profets get new insparation and a new scripture but the same message as previos profets/messengers
Muhammad was the last profet/messenger that received a final scripture(by insparation of GOD) that was
diferand from Torah and engieel but stil the SAME MESSEGE.
of the oneness of GOD unfortunatly it got distorted by two verses .
Also the English translators took the messege out of context to try and change the meaning of the original messege .
Rashad came along by the power of the MOST HIGH ALLAAH SOPEHANNAHOETEHALA
and corektet the the same scripture and the same messege and exposo the falswood
by the use of the mathamaticule miricule that was destant to come to him (Rashad)

It is clear to me that there will be people hoe will have
doubts and on the day of reconing you will be sorry for not
concoring you doubts.
Why don't you take a break from satan and ask your self just one question:
HOE IS THAT MESSENGER IN 3:81

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HOE [sic] IS THAT MESSENGER IN 3:81

You must read 3:81 in context to see who the god is talking to. The god repeatedly says "you" in the plural form, and he is talking to the people of the previous book (ahl al-kitab). The god is talking about the people of the previous book starting in 3:75, and he addresses them specifically - since they claimed that the prophets told them to idolize "angels" - in 3:80, immediately before telling them about Muhammad in 3:81.

3:75-81 From the people of the book (ahl al-kitab) is he who if you entrust him with a large amount he gives it back to you,
and there is he who if you entrust him with one gold coin he will not return it to you unless you are standing over him.
That is because they said, "We have no obligation towards the common people."
They say about the god lies, knowingly.
Indeed, anyone who fulfils his pledge and is conscientious, the god loves the conscientious.
Those that purchase with the god's pledge and their oaths a small price will have no portion in the hereafter.
The god will not speak to them nor look at them at the time of resurrection, nor purify them,
and they will have a painful retribution.
Of them is a group that twists their tongues with the book so that you may reckon it from the book,
while it is not from the book,
and they say it is from the god when it is not from the the god.
They say about the god lies, knowingly.
It is not for a human that the god would give the book, the judging authority, and prophethood,
that he would say to the people, "Be my servants apart from the god", rather:
"Be devotees to what you have been taught of the book, and to what you studied."
Nor would he command you to take the 'angels' and the prophets as lords.
Would he order you to reject after you have become peaceful?
The god took a covenant from the prophets regarding what I have given you of the book and wisdom.
Then came to you a messenger authenticating what is with you,
so that you may believe in him and so that you may support him.
He said, "Do you testify and agree to this burden?"
They said, "We testify."
He said, "Then bear witness, and I am with you of the witnesses."


Some say the god was talking to the prophets saying, "Then a messenger comes to YOU authenticating what is with YOU", but I don't see that any messenger came to all the prophets at once. I see that Muhammad came after the prophets of the previous books had delivered their messages. The covenant that the god made with the prophets was a contract stating that they deliver his messages. Not that they wait somewhere in the universe for Khalifa to descend upon them and leave them in awe (http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597165.msg240981#msg240981).

In 3:81 we hear about a messenger coming to authenticate the prophets. Muhammad came to those of the previous book and did exactly that:

2:41 And believe in what I have sent down, authenticating what is with you.
2:89 And when a book came to them from the god authenticating what is with them.
2:91 They reject what came after it, while it is the truth authenticating what is with them.
2:101 And when a messenger came to them from the god authenticating what is with them.
4:47 Believe in what we sent down authenticating what is with you.
3:81 I gave you of the book and wisdom, then came to you a messenger authenticating what is with you.


The reading is all we need in life, Khalifa had nothing to add. Indeed, all he did was cast doubt on the reading through his deletion of 9:128-129 and his manipulative translation.

LEST WE FORGET:

9:128-129 A messenger came to you from yourselves, concerned that you might suffer. To the believers he is compassionate, merciful. If they turn away, say, "Enough for me is the god. There is no god except he. In him I put my trust; he is the lord of the great dominion/throne."



The real messenger of the god, charged with delivering the reading alone, truly cared about his people. The reading is all we need, enough said.

Peace,

-David

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I personally don't believe Rashad was a messenger of God in any way, I believe Muhammad was the final Messenger and Prophet and the Quran the final message to us. It's to bad that his claim of messenger-ship has hurt the credibility of his books and research for those who don't follow him. For most people who don't follow the Quran alone they see the idea of "Quran alone" as being a product of Rashad and dismiss it as a deviant sect or something completely outside the fold of Islam, even though history would say otherwise.
"Do not read to contradict and refute, nor to believe and take it for granted, but to weigh and consider." - Francis Bacon

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look at the first and the second translation ...
Quran only, The word of God