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Re: Proof that Qibla is the Kaabah in Mecca
« Reply #80 on: March 23, 2013, 03:43:34 PM »
To add to Hawk99's point about what is written in Psalms 84... I've never been to Palestine but I have been to Mecca and the description given in Psalms 84 matches Mecca perfectly. Even the birds. The first time I went to the kaaba in Mecca, one of the things that really caught my attention was how many birds were flying around circling the Kaaba. And it was night time. Plus the valley, the well of Zam Zam, the alters... Sounds like the Mecca I saw. As for Abraham never having been there? Well Abraham probably lived 4500 years ago. None of us know much about him for sure. But if God commanded him to travel to Mecca, I'm pretty sure he would have. Peace!
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Re: Proof that Qibla is the Kaabah in Mecca
« Reply #81 on: March 23, 2013, 04:19:14 PM »
peace,

The first time I went to the kaaba in Mecca, one of the things that really caught my attention was how many birds were flying around circling the Kaaba. 

Are you sure about that?

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM0YIuLoppU
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Re: Proof that Qibla is the Kaabah in Mecca
« Reply #82 on: March 24, 2013, 02:11:15 AM »
To add to Hawk99's point about what is written in Psalms 84... Mecca and the description given in Psalms 84 matches Mecca perfectly. Even the birds. The first time I went to the kaaba in Mecca, one of the things that really caught my attention was how many birds were flying around circling the Kaaba. And it was night time.

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Birds huh.

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[105:1] Have you noted what your Lord did to the people of the elephant?

[105:2] Did He not cause their schemes to backfire?

[105:3] He sent upon them swarms of birds.

[105:4] That showered them with hard stones.

[105:5] He made them like chewed up hay.

The people who marched on mecca to destroy the ka'aba were attacked by birds!
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Re: Proof that Qibla is the Kaabah in Mecca
« Reply #83 on: March 24, 2013, 03:04:34 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ5VMhjgJTQ

see 4:45 in the video   :rotfl:

is that spirituality?
is that getting nearer to God?
what is that urge, that desire people have to touch "THAT" in all that horrible mass bodily smells and sweat???

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Re: Proof that Qibla is the Kaabah in Mecca
« Reply #84 on: April 03, 2013, 03:43:17 PM »
Just beacuse im saying hajj is made in Mecca does not mean I think the rituals in hadith are the rituals in Kaabah.... there is even a whole surah called hajj in the Quran and those are the rituals I will follow when I visit the Kaabah in Mecca Inshallah.

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Re: Proof that Qibla is the Kaabah in Mecca
« Reply #85 on: April 03, 2013, 09:21:56 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ5VMhjgJTQ

see 4:45 in the video   :rotfl:

is that spirituality?
is that getting nearer to God?
what is that urge, that desire people have to touch "THAT" in all that horrible mass bodily smells and sweat???

 :o

When I went there, I got a really creepy feeling looking at how people were trying to trample each other to touch a black cube and kiss the stone. Oral herpes anyone? It just appeared very pagan like and didn't settle well with me. I even touched the kaaba once because it was the middle of the night and the crowd wasn't too bad and everyone else in my family was doing it. But I really didn't have a good feeling about it even though I was a hardcore Sunni then. But the place itself (not the behavior of the people) is awe inspiring. So much history there. It's hard to put into words but the place is like nowhere else. Everything slows down for me. As if life is moving in slow motion. I do in my heart think it is indeed the holy mosque Abraham built. But I have no proof for this. Just my gut feeling. Peace!
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Re: Proof that Qibla is the Kaabah in Mecca
« Reply #86 on: April 03, 2013, 09:35:01 PM »
peace,

Are you sure about that?

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM0YIuLoppU

It's crazy. I didn't realize there were videos of this. Which is nice because people think I was smoking something funny whenever I've talked about this.
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Re: Proof that Qibla is the Kaabah in Mecca
« Reply #87 on: April 03, 2013, 11:46:23 PM »
Salaam Aamer,

Interesting testimony, I was intrigued by hearing your personal feeling when being at the Kabah site. I have not traveled there myself yet, but I think about it. The rumors that it is not the true location has made me wonder a bit, but recently I did some own studies and are more certain that this holy site must at least be in Arabia, and why not in Mecca, close to that ancient well.

I also wonder if when Moses fled out of Egypt if he came to this well, and met his future wife and was taught by a priest, and worked for several years.

I will not elaborate my theory here, it is pretty much loose fragments still and it must be gathered together, ie I must put the pieces together.

My work is highly spiritual, but also contains physical parts.

If old Mosques point further north it is because of Moses place of gathering where he built an altar. Or at least may be. Mount Sinai is the highest place around there?

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Re: Proof that Qibla is the Kaabah in Mecca
« Reply #88 on: April 04, 2013, 01:51:38 AM »
When I went there, I got a really creepy feeling looking at how people were trying to trample each other to touch a black cube and kiss the stone. Oral herpes anyone? It just appeared very pagan like and didn't settle well with me. I even touched the kaaba once because it was the middle of the night and the crowd wasn't too bad and everyone else in my family was doing it. But I really didn't have a good feeling about it even though I was a hardcore Sunni then. But the place itself (not the behavior of the people) is awe inspiring. So much history there. It's hard to put into words but the place is like nowhere else. Everything slows down for me. As if life is moving in slow motion. I do in my heart think it is indeed the holy mosque Abraham built. But I have no proof for this. Just my gut feeling. Peace!

Thank you @Aamer,

I appreciate your first-hand testimony very much, and I appreciate your sincerity and description.
But there are also many other places with a lot of important history in the world, not to mention many other sacred places even stronger than that one.
Thank to God for giving almost all people in the world a possibility to connect with Him in this or some other way.

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Re: Proof that Qibla is the Kaabah in Mecca
« Reply #89 on: April 04, 2013, 11:10:41 AM »
It's crazy. I didn't realize there were videos of this. Which is nice because people think I was smoking something funny whenever I've talked about this.

I think you are smoking something funny because that video clearly shows what you said to be false.... for most of the birds.
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