How can long dead Prophets support a future Messenger?

[mubashir55]

3:81 And (bring to mind) when Allah took the covenant of the Prophets (saying): ?Truly what I have given you as Kitab and Hikmah ? afterwards came to you a Messenger as confirmer and rehearser for what is with you, (as a requirement) you must Believe in him and (as a necessity) you must assist him.? (Allah further) said: ?Have you agreed and understood My Covenant regarding this (instruction) to you?? They said: ?We have agreed.? He said: ?Then bear witness and I am with you, among the witnesses.?

Question:

From the above verse it seems that Allah took a covenant of the Prophets to believe and support a Messenger who comes after them to confirm their teachings. How can Prophets who are dead and gone supports a future Messenger?

Thanks.

[Mazhar]

The Covenant between Allah the Exalted and His Chosen, Dignified and Exalted Sincere Allegiants

[DrGm]

peace,

if i read this ayat/verse, without the brackets, i understand: the prophets taking the covenant of Allah, are asking the followers: "i have given u the Book and the wisdom from Him." 

"later, a messenger as conformer of the wisdom u have, will  come."  "u - the followers, firmly believe and assist the messenger." "So, will u adhere and agree this", said the prophet.  the followers answered "yes, we'll adhere".  then the prophet said, "bear witness, and i'll also be a witness among witnesses".

i understand that every prophet, say these words, to their followers.  as, the messengers will be coming till the judgement day to prove the Ayats of Koran.

note: i'm new to Koran.  i read in my native language.  i come from an idol worshiping family.  i left idol worshiping after reading Koran.  Koran gives me so much meaning to my life.

[Ayisha]

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[Mazhar]

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Salamun alaiki,

Thanks.

The Covenant between Allah the Exalted and His Chosen, Dignified and Exalted Sincere Allegiants

[Ayisha]

peace,

if i read this ayat/verse, without the brackets, i understand: the prophets taking the covenant of Allah, are asking the followers: "i have given u the Book and the wisdom from Him." 

"later, a messenger as conformer of the wisdom u have, will  come."  "u - the followers, firmly believe and assist the messenger." "So, will u adhere and agree this", said the prophet.  the followers answered "yes, we'll adhere".  then the prophet said, "bear witness, and i'll also be a witness among witnesses".

i understand that every prophet, say these words, to their followers.  as, the messengers will be coming till the judgement day to prove the Ayats of Koran.

note: i'm new to Koran.  i read in my native language.  i come from an idol worshiping family.  i left idol worshiping after reading Koran.  Koran gives me so much meaning to my life.

Salam DrGm

This is spoken to the prophets by God, not to the followers by the prophets as I understand it. An agreement between God and His prophets, although the following verse leads me more to confusion as it's talking about turning back after this leads to transgression, which one would assume prophets wouldn't do.

As this is being spoken TO a particular prophet telling him of what was past (covenant with previous prophets) I don't agree with the majority that this was also taken with THAT prophet, although I'm open to learning on that one!

That said, I also don't understand how dead prophets can 'believe and assist' a living one that comes after them, so you might actually have a good point.

[Ayisha]

Salamun alaiki,

Thanks.

Now I wish I hadn't clicked and I've only read the first bit!

"This Subject was also chosen by some Psychological manipulators with tilted psyche and self nurtured disease of animosity, jealousy, bias, envy, and aversion against the Person of the Leader of Humanity, the Messenger and Personification of the Infinite Mercy of Allah the Exalted. "

You appear to have made the messenger God in the flesh. 

[Ayisha]

Salamun alaiki,

Thanks.

As ever a struggle to read and aside from the messenger being God in person, some of that does actually make sense! 

[Bender]

Now I wish I hadn't clicked and I've only read the first bit!
"This Subject was also chosen by some Psychological manipulators with tilted psyche and self nurtured disease of animosity, jealousy, bias, envy, and aversion against the Person of the Leader of Humanity, the Messenger and Personification of the Infinite Mercy of Allah the Exalted. "

You appear to have made the messenger God in the flesh. 

Salaam,

[Mazhar]

Now I wish I hadn't clicked and I've only read the first bit!

"This Subject was also chosen by some Psychological manipulators with tilted psyche and self nurtured disease of animosity, jealousy, bias, envy, and aversion against the Person of the Leader of Humanity, the Messenger and Personification of the Infinite Mercy of Allah the Exalted. "

You appear to have made the messenger God in the flesh. 

Salamun alaiki,

You may please overlook this part so that I can have feedback of you on the main body of article. However, some of the translations about this issue are hereunder---Ayah 21:107

Muhammad Asad   And [thus, O Prophet,] We have sent thee as [an evidence of Our] grace towards all the worlds.    M. M. Pickthall   We sent thee not save as a mercy for the peoples.   
Shakir   And We have not sent you but as a mercy to the worlds.   
Yusuf Ali   We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures.   
Dr. Laleh Bakhtiar   And We sent thee not but as a mercy for the worlds.   
Wahiduddin Khan   We have sent you forth as a mercy to all mankind.   
T.B.Irving   We have merely sent you as a mercy for [everybody in] the Universe.   
[Al-Muntakhab]   We did not send you O Muhammad for a reason other than to symbolize, and serve as an embodiment of mercy which Allah has extended to all His creatures,

Mazhar A. Nurani: It is a fact that We have not sent you the Messenger Muhammad [Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam] except as mercy personified apparent for the known worlds. [21:107]

رَحْمَةً is in accusative case and absolute state, whereby it is understood as circumstantial clause for the pronoun كَ second person, masculine, singular which is the direct object of verb. Since it is in absolute state the following prepositional phrase relates to the hidden adjective for رَحْمَةً.