The White race are Jinn?

[A Submitter]

Fire is not a metaphor. When it's written fire, literally, it's fire. So if it's said the rejecters will burn, then they will burn.

If we use Quran, I'm sure we will understand what the Jinn are, without using metaphores.

Salam

[Cerberus]

Since gingers have no soul they must be the jinn. got em their secret is finally unveiled

[imrankhawaja]

Oh, thank you all that have made me aware that fire is a metaphore, I would never have guessed, just as who would have guessed that mud or earth or whatever could also be a metaphore. It is nice that people feel so absolutely sure about things like that.

But the question is that metaphore or not metaphore Iblees is just a case of being jinn, not the only possibility that there be jaann and that as far as I can verify all identifications of jinn as this or that that you are doing and whether metaphore or not are conjecture.

Salaam

i m not talking about ibless.. i m talking about the beings other than humans...

yeh i wanted to make you aware about one more thing... about humans.. interestingly and fortunately you have labotratory in which you can experiment the human particles with the particles of earth and you will find out both have same properties... so its not a methaphor... 

about jinns/invisible beings/energy beings/smoklessfire beings you cannot do experiment on them ,well when you do one let me know what you have find in them . properties of fire , or an action to a reaction that cause a form of energy like wood catch a fire by a reaction.. but make sure one thing find a kind of fire in which reaction will not cause a smoke otherwise its discarded ...  so let me guess niether you will manage to find/understand the smokeless fire nor you will b able to do experiment on any jinny... you are blocked from both sides ..

so fire here is perfectly a methphor... but human and the addressed particle is not methphor... u can always test it... 

so as far i think the fire is a methphor or the availaible form of energy at that time so God use that word to make some people understand... people need to understannd what is the defination of methphor...

when u cant see anything then language borrow a word to make you understand ... hence fire methphor perfectly fit with jinns...

if the electricity or plasma were discovered at the time of revelation then probably God make you understand by a methaphor  plasma... or electric beings 

ahh i have another understanding according to your point of view... the concealed things are jinns... so gravity vaccum, kinetic energy ,potential energy, magnetic field  all are also a form/kind of jinnies... unfortunately all these things were also not discovered at the time of revelation so God missed to use that word too....

But the author of quran is very intelligent he use the easy language for people to understand ...

same like in general language we use ladies and genetleman... instead of using ladies ,genetleman and transgenders...

does it mean transgender dosent exist or God was unaware about the third sex...

[HP_TECH]

I would almost be saddened by how corrupt some of your understandings are but I will not grieve.
Indeed herein are those of knowledge, they recite the Quran, fear their Lord and in His Signs believe.

[Man of Faith]

Fire is not a metaphor. When it's written fire, literally, it's fire. So if it's said the rejecters will burn, then they will burn.

If we use Quran, I'm sure we will understand what the Jinn are, without using metaphores.

Salam

Fire is only a visual phenomenon of another process. Heat is another way of seeing it and heat and flammability determines when the matter will "burn" which is when a matter is disintegrating. But it is the heat which accomplishes it all.

And heat could be regarded as energy which is being discharged. The nuur word is meaning something like "energy". And all living beings in the world are just constructed from energy or whatever to call the phenomenon forming the atoms of the universe which in return make the molecules which we can observe in our world through various methods depending on substance.

What I wanted to say, nothing can be made of fire and what causes the fire is something building up energy so much that its heat starts a kind of chain reaction fueled by such as oxygen. The "burning" is actually on atomic (even subatomic) level while we perceive it as a flame. Fire is not an element which was the common belief many centuries ago and is only a visual effect of a process going on in a worldly substance. The flame going up is particles including heat coloring the environment.

What Quran means with fire is to have to endure being a being of energy continually and feel this energy ("fire") forever unless they find a way to stop it. That is the non-distorted version before Pagan-minded clergymen added their bias.

Be well
Amenuel

[A Submitter]

Fire is only a visual phenomenon of another process. Heat is another way of seeing it and heat and flammability determines when the matter will "burn" which is when a matter is disintegrating. But it is the heat which accomplishes it all.

And heat could be regarded as energy which is being discharged. The nuur word is meaning something like "energy". And all living beings in the world are just constructed from energy or whatever to call the phenomenon forming the atoms of the universe which in return make the molecules which we can observe in our world through various methods depending on substance.

What I wanted to say, nothing can be made of fire and what causes the fire is something building up energy so much that its heat starts a kind of chain reaction fueled by such as oxygen. The "burning" is actually on atomic (even subatomic) level while we perceive it as a flame. Fire is not an element which was the common belief many centuries ago and is only a visual effect of a process going on in a worldly substance. The flame going up is particles including heat coloring the environment.

What Quran means with fire is to have to endure being a being of energy continually and feel this energy ("fire") forever unless they find a way to stop it. That is the non-distorted version before Pagan-minded clergymen added their bias.

Be well
Amenuel

Still doesn't make sense.

There's another verse saying
81:12     
And when Hell is ignited.

Earth will be burning. I don't know how Earth will be ignited; perhaps through when the sun expands as is said in Quran. So if something is ignited, it means there will be fire. Earth will become a fireball, and God will save those who believed and did good away from Hell (burning Earth) and to His Paradise.

It's not a metaphor!

Salam

[huruf]

The Qur'an states that Iblees is of the mala'ika, and Iblees says of himself that he is made of fire.

As far as I can remember no other jinn is mentionned as being made of fire.

Again, jaann (plural of jinn) are not a particular creation but a trait, a feature, a characteristic.

Most of the mentions of jinn appear together with the mention of 'ins and are presented as something akin or parallel.

The basic meaning of j-n-n- is to conceal

The basic meaning of a-n-s  is to be sociable.

So from there we might infer that both may be people, the ins of them associate visibly and the jinn do not associate visibly. If we translate that to the spiritual or religious sphere, might be the jinn are beievers that do not make it obvious, that do not associate for rituals and the the ins those tho do or show their "intimate being openly".

May be people who do not worship apparently or in collectivities and people who do.

Salaam

[Man of Faith]

When does Quran state that ebless is of the maleika? I have never read about it in any sectarian translation, not even Free-minds own one.

[Man of Faith]

Jinn as a root, Jiim-Nun-Nun, refers to the cover of something, e.g. someone's clothing, armor etc, but most importantly it is the bodily overall.

[huruf]

When does Quran state that ebless is of the maleika? I have never read about it in any sectarian translation, not even Free-minds own one.

2.34
وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ وَاسْتَكْبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ الْكَافِرِينَ

2.34  And when We told the angels, "Prostrate yourselves before Adam!" -they all prostrated themselves, save Iblis, who refused and gloried in his arrogance: and thus he became one of those who deny the truth. (34)

Salaam