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The White race are Jinn?

Started by Scrappy-doo, December 22, 2012, 02:44:49 PM

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huruf

Jaann (plural of jinn) can be anything, it is not a kind it is a charactristic which can have anything. It means "concelaed", concealed ones. It can be people, it can be phenomena, it can spirits, whatever, but they are concealed.

Iblees was made of fire, but not necessarily other jaann are made of fire, They are just concealed.

Salaam

Jafar

Quote from: Scrappy-doo on December 22, 2012, 02:44:49 PM
I recently had a debate with a brother on Jinn. He is of the understanding that Jinn are Human they interbred with the children of Adam (who are pure black) and hey presto! You get white people. Any thoughts would be most welcome. ::)

Nice raw material for "Black Supremacist" propaganda..
Black uber alles, black is the pure race, white is a tainted race which justify it's elimination.. and so does yellow, brown and other color..

Having said that, the above might have some truth to it...
The varieties of modern sapiens genes (not only skin shade) are the results of cross breeding with other humanoid..  we now know at least three; Neanderthal, Denisovans and the third sub-species which we haven't managed to find any fossil of... But it doesn't really stroke well with division on purely skin color..

Some example: Native Australians (Dark skinned) = Neanderthal + Denisovans + Sapiens
Polynesian + Asian (some are dark and some are light skinned) = Neanderthal + Denisovans + Sapiens
Caucasian (Light skinned) = Neanderthal + Sapiens
Sub Saharan African = Sapiens





imrankhawaja

Quote from: huruf on January 21, 2017, 03:10:03 AM


Iblees was made of fire, but not necessarily other jaann are made of fire, They are just concealed.

Salaam

fire is a metaphor of something  have a form of energy(heat, steam, atom, hydrogen,solar energy,electricity,gas) ... in 7th century the fire was the only availaible form of energy ... so it was considered as fire(energy) beings ...

the fire what we create and the energy what they have not similar as we know the fire always have smoke...
God created the jinn with smokeless flame of fire  itself give a hint that these are beings created from self energised stuff which make possible for them to flight through the skies...

a human being is created from dust(clay) he can generate energy not by his own but by the help of existed energy at earth.. then he can also penetrate the boundaries of heaven and earth by making a fueling rocket...




Man of Faith

Huruf,

For your information, the human does produce heat within its own body through a phenomenon which is a kind of geothermal heating, homeostasis . It is not strong, but will work while the external temperature is roughly between 15 to the body's own temperature without extra clothing or overheat protection. Many other animals have such as fur to isolate body heat instead of just fat while some animals cannot produce heat on their own such as reptiles.

And in my world the jinn is just a component of us humans, the bodily, or encasing or outer layer. Body is a valid lexical and etymological definition from sources I have browsed. I would not believe in such as supernatural beings called jinns. Satan is of the bodily, simple as that. It is that which draws us to this world to indulge.

Angela are something else, they have no material composition but are Ethereal. Would be incorrect to give them physical attributes. Nowhere does it say angels are jinns, but this is a human assumption based on that Satan is of the jinn and he is claimed to be a fallen angel. This is however nowhere to be read about even in the sectarian interpretation of Quran. Satan is of the jinn, but it does not have anything to do with the Maleika. They are above the jinn.

Jinn can also be a derogatory term to refer to a worldly human, a profoundly bodily person who enjoys what the world has to offer in their illusion and cannot think beyond it.

Be well
Amenuel
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hawk99

Quote from: imrankhawaja on January 21, 2017, 04:18:12 AM
fire is a metaphor

I agree fire is a metaphor for the jinn type personality, i.e., intensity,
ambition, leadership, hatred, narcissism, racism etc., and mud/clay is a metaphor for
Malleability, those who can be shaped, led, the followers, supporters,
and adherents. 

38/76  He said, "I am better than him. You created me from fire and created him from clay."

Iblis is/was the original racist, supremacists, because he believes/believed he is better than
those made of mud/clay.  Which leads us to the present day debate of oligarchs, race and
ethnic relations, tribalism, influence, cultural decisions and oppression. 
The secret to monotheism can be found in the garden

A Submitter

So if I'm between white and grey skinned, what does that make me? Also, I eat a lot of carrot, so I became orange. Does that make me human or jinn or non?

Thanks for help.

Salam  :handshake:

Jafar

Quote from: A Submitter on January 21, 2017, 10:20:17 AM
So if I'm between white and grey skinned, what does that make me? Also, I eat a lot of carrot, so I became orange. Does that make me human or jinn or non?

Orange, between white and grey... you're Donald Trump...

A Submitter


imrankhawaja

Quote from: A Submitter on January 21, 2017, 10:20:17 AM
so I became orange. Does that make me human or jinn or non?

metaphorically you are mirinda jinny ...



huruf

Quote from: imrankhawaja on January 21, 2017, 04:18:12 AM
fire is a metaphor of something  have a form of energy(heat, steam, atom, hydrogen,solar energy,electricity,gas) ... in 7th century the fire was the only availaible form of energy ... so it was considered as fire(energy) beings ...

the fire what we create and the energy what they have not similar as we know the fire always have smoke...
God created the jinn with smokeless flame of fire  itself give a hint that these are beings created from self energised stuff which make possible for them to flight through the skies...

a human being is created from dust(clay) he can generate energy not by his own but by the help of existed energy at earth.. then he can also penetrate the boundaries of heaven and earth by making a fueling rocket...


Oh, thank you all that have made me aware that fire is a metaphore, I would never have guessed, just as who would have guessed that mud or earth or whatever could also be a metaphore. It is nice that people feel so absolutely sure about things like that.

But the question is that metaphore or not metaphore Iblees is just a case of being jinn, not the only possibility that there be jaann and that as far as I can verify all identifications of jinn as this or that that you are doing and whether metaphore or not are conjecture.

Salaam