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Re: New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran
« Reply #130 on: December 25, 2013, 07:49:59 PM »

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Re: New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran
« Reply #131 on: December 29, 2013, 04:45:34 AM »
salaam brother ayman

i am really impressed by the success of your facebook page.
thank you for the work you are doing.

Peace
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Re: New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran
« Reply #132 on: January 02, 2014, 12:13:03 AM »
Peace Ayman

I read the first chapters.
I couldn?t almost believe what I read.
Its like everything just falls into their places, where they was intended to be from the  beginning.

I think that you are one that make what we all really purposed to do: Trying to make the gods plan come through.
May he really use you a lot.

Wishing you all the best.

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Re: New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran
« Reply #133 on: February 04, 2014, 02:28:12 PM »
Peace Ayman
I read most of the book and I have to say that it is thought provoking. I can agree with you on a lot of things, the only questions I have would concern the Masjid Idea; can it not be a physical and a mental thing?

Otherwise I can see where the 2 salat belief come from (you can interpret the "Guard your Salat (More than dual), as mean your lifetime, and not just daily because the end of the verse states to "stand in obedience (e.g in All of your salats = again lifetime, not just isolated). Also the Ramadan Summer timing is logical.

Again, the only need for more interpretation for me, concerns the Masjid and Qibla interpretation. I say so because after reading the Masjid interpretation in Arabic, you kind of stressed more on the mental acceptance (sujjud) of it, but you didn't completely reject the idea of a physical house/Bayt/Masjid, where people can recite the Almighty's verses, and thus come to obedience or sujjud. Would you be kind enough to enlighten me on that, can there not be such a physical place where there this mental obedience to the Almighty's words happen ? What about the Qibla being a physical focal point as a form of being organized?
 وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ مُوسَىٰ وَأَخِيهِ أَن تَبَوَّآ لِقَوْمِكُمَا بِمِصْرَ بُيُوتًا وَاجْعَلُوا بُيُوتَكُمْ قِبْلَةً وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَبَشِّرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ﴿يونس: ٨٧﴾

I appreciate your response, thanks.
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Re: New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran
« Reply #134 on: February 06, 2014, 07:00:18 PM »
Peace Ayman
I read most of the book and I have to say that it is thought provoking. I can agree with you on a lot of things, the only questions I have would concern the Masjid Idea; can it not be a physical and a mental thing?

Otherwise I can see where the 2 salat belief come from (you can interpret the "Guard your Salat (More than dual), as mean your lifetime, and not just daily because the end of the verse states to "stand in obedience (e.g in All of your salats = again lifetime, not just isolated). Also the Ramadan Summer timing is logical.

Again, the only need for more interpretation for me, concerns the Masjid and Qibla interpretation. I say so because after reading the Masjid interpretation in Arabic, you kind of stressed more on the mental acceptance (sujjud) of it, but you didn't completely reject the idea of a physical house/Bayt/Masjid, where people can recite the Almighty's verses, and thus come to obedience or sujjud. Would you be kind enough to enlighten me on that, can there not be such a physical place where there this mental obedience to the Almighty's words happen ? What about the Qibla being a physical focal point as a form of being organized?
 وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ مُوسَىٰ وَأَخِيهِ أَن تَبَوَّآ لِقَوْمِكُمَا بِمِصْرَ بُيُوتًا وَاجْعَلُوا بُيُوتَكُمْ قِبْلَةً وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَبَشِّرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ﴿يونس: ٨٧﴾

I appreciate your response, thanks.
Salam 3lek

Masjid & Quibla etc..
one should go to the roots... Torah... first was the tent of the meeting (mishkan) when you are in the desert (every-day's life turmoil) you connect to God "on the walking" (unfold the tent as so on) but, when you "build" the Temple (Salomon's) you do it on the rock, which is a solid ground of your inner peace and meditation.

So it is all in you, as God is mainly consciousness!
Same with Masjid, it is the "hajj" to the inner Self! (inner masjid)

As to Salat, here it is:

?As my prayer became more attentive and inward,
I had less to say.
I finally became completely silent.
I started to listen
-which is even further removed from speaking.
I first thought that praying entailed speaking.
I then learned that praying is hearing,
not merely being silent.
This is how it is.
To pray does not mean to listen to oneself speaking.
Prayer involves becoming silent,
and being silent,
and waiting until God is heard.?
                                                                      Soren Kierkegaard.

One should never forget that the Qur'an is the updated Bible, version 2.0 so to speak... :)

God has no Religion!

God is running everything.

Peace begins with me.

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Re: New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran
« Reply #135 on: February 07, 2014, 04:32:53 AM »
peace all,

.....the only questions I have would concern the Masjid Idea; can it not be a physical and a mental thing?

Again, the only need for more interpretation for me, concerns the Masjid and Qibla interpretation. I say so because after reading the Masjid interpretation in Arabic, you kind of stressed more on the mental acceptance (sujjud) of it, but you didn't completely reject the idea of a physical house/Bayt/Masjid, where people can recite the Almighty's verses.......

Unfortunately for us, I am still waiting on bro Ayman to answer some questions on his view on "masjid" on this thread:
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604467.msg319321#msg319321
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Re: New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran
« Reply #136 on: February 08, 2014, 10:25:48 PM »
i am really impressed by the success of your facebook page.
thank you for the work you are doing.

Thank you my dear brother noshirk. It is the god's blessing. It is also interesting that the vast majority (about 82%) of the page current 1.86 Million fans ae under 34 years old. So the future looks bright :).

Peace,

Ayman

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Re: New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran
« Reply #137 on: February 08, 2014, 10:33:42 PM »
Peace bro NielsJacob,

I read the first chapters.
I couldn?t almost believe what I read.
Its like everything just falls into their places, where they was intended to be from the  beginning.
I think that you are one that make what we all really purposed to do: Trying to make the gods plan come through.
May he really use you a lot.
Wishing you all the best.

Thank you for your kindness, your enouragement, and your sincere prayers. I am deeply touched by all of your words. Thank you for reminding all of us of our purpose to serve the god.

God bless you and all best wishes and peace my dear brother,

Ayman

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Re: New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran
« Reply #138 on: February 08, 2014, 10:59:04 PM »
I read most of the book and I have to say that it is thought provoking. I can agree with you on a lot of things, the only questions I have would concern the Masjid Idea; can it not be a physical and a mental thing?

The concept of "masjid" as an institution of the obedience encompasses both physical and mental aspects. It is the same as the institution of government encompasses both physical and mental aspects. I believe that "masjid" (institution of obedience) is conceptually synonymous with government (institution of authority that is to be obeyed). As with government, the primary aspect of "masjid" is a system and not just a physical building.

Otherwise I can see where the 2 salat belief come from (you can interpret the "Guard your Salat (More than dual), as mean your lifetime, and not just daily because the end of the verse states to "stand in obedience (e.g in All of your salats = again lifetime, not just isolated). Also the Ramadan Summer timing is logical.

Yes, the plural term "salawat" does not mean a certain number within 24 hours. This can also be seen from the following passage where the same exact word صَلَوَاتٌ occurs:

أُولَئِكَ عَلَيْهِمْ صَلَوَاتٌ مِّن رَّبِّهِمْ وَرَحْمَةٌ وَأُولَئِكَ هُمُ الْمُهْتَدُونَ

Again, the only need for more interpretation for me, concerns the Masjid and Qibla interpretation. I say so because after reading the Masjid interpretation in Arabic, you kind of stressed more on the mental acceptance (sujjud) of it, but you didn't completely reject the idea of a physical house/Bayt/Masjid, where people can recite the Almighty's verses, and thus come to obedience or sujjud. Would you be kind enough to enlighten me on that, can there not be such a physical place where there this mental obedience to the Almighty's words happen ? What about the Qibla being a physical focal point as a form of being organized?
 وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ مُوسَىٰ وَأَخِيهِ أَن تَبَوَّآ لِقَوْمِكُمَا بِمِصْرَ بُيُوتًا وَاجْعَلُوا بُيُوتَكُمْ قِبْلَةً وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَبَشِّرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ﴿يونس: ٨٧﴾

Yes. The house (al-bayt) is the physical aspect. It is any place where no partners are setup with the god and where people can gather safely. Since "al-bayt" is a physical place then it is a direction/destination (qibla) that is also physical. The passage about the people of Moses instructs them to make their physical houses a destination.

I noticed that you have a Facebook page in English. I think the title of your page is really inspiring (ثورة القرآن وحده). The vast majority of the audience of my Facebook page are Arabic speakers. If you make your Facebook page in Arabic or both English and Arabic, then I can help you boost its audience by sharing it on my page.

Peace and all best wishes,

Ayman

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Re: New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran
« Reply #139 on: February 08, 2014, 11:05:38 PM »
Peace bro Wakas,

Unfortunately for us, I am still waiting on bro Ayman to answer some questions on his view on "masjid" on this thread:
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604467.msg319321#msg319321

I am not sure if you have revised your understanding of "masjid" meaning time of obedience. If you have not added anything new or revised your understanding then I am sure that the aspect of time would fit within the concept of "masjid" as an institution. Any institution has a system and time is an aspect of any system.

Peace and best regards,

Ayman