Knocking on the doors of atheism

[StopS]

Peace StopS.

I am sure if you go back and read the thread. You will find the reason i asked confused not to close his mind.

I do not get " bitchy" with anyone. I was surprised you made the wrong assumption.
Peace.

Did I ask about confused or you? confused had some issue with a question he missed. Mine was totally unrelated.

I am starting to doubt the logics of your logics.

Could you please explain what you mean by: "open" your mind?

Is your mind open enough to accept Thor as a god? Or are you so close minded that you will immediately reject any notion that Thor could be a god?
Have you closed your mind to the fact that Allah is the only god for you?
If you are so close minded on an issue, why do you expect others to be open minded on the very same issue?

[good logic]

Peace StopS.

" Open " your mind was said to confused for a reason. That is what I meant by it. Addressed to confused alone.

So why would you want to ask me about it?

Peace.

[StopS]

So why would you want to ask me about it?

Because I would like to hear you opinion on what you think about this:

Could you please explain what you mean by: "open" your mind?

Is your mind open enough to accept Thor as a god? Or are you so close minded that you will immediately reject any notion that Thor could be a god?
Have you closed your mind to the fact that Allah is the only god for you?
If you are so close minded on an issue, why do you expect others to be open minded on the very same issue?

[good logic]

Peace StopS.

You are asking me something illogical. I did not say to anybody else to " Open " their mind.

I explained who I said it to and why?

So there is no opinion or answer required.

Do you understand what I am saying?
Peace.

[StopS]

Peace StopS.

You are asking me something illogical. I did not say to anybody else to " Open " their mind.

I explained who I said it to and why?

So there is no opinion or answer required.

Do you understand what I am saying?
Peace.

It is YOU who don't understand. I am not referring to anyone else. I am not latching on to anyone's post or question.

I am asking you some questions, which I am curious how you will answer them:

Could you please define what you mean by: "open" your mind?

Is your mind open enough to accept Thor as a god? Or are you so close minded that you will immediately reject any notion that Thor could be a god?
Have you closed your mind to the fact that Allah is the only god for you?
If you are so close minded on an issue, why do you expect others to be open minded on the very same issue?

[one-9-one]

Could you please define what you mean by: "open" your mind?

Why don't you open up. Why did you PM me like that. Don't try your luck here. These are  religious Moslems.

[good logic]

Peace StopS.

Look you are asking:  Could you please define what you mean by: "open" your mind?


How can I answer this claim. I did not say this to anyone for no reason!

You might as well ask me: Can I define what I mean by " Go to hell"?

I cannot answer what I have not said to you or others for no reason.

End of conversation.
Peace.

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It's pity that this thread didn't continue with good information. But this is an interesting thread that Confused has open up. In the way of life it's reasonable or even forced to think more than what you are used to believe or think.

We need to be able to discuss with respect to everyone's thinking and without imposing our self-understanding to others. Everybody have different life experiences and and we have different ways to understand life and how to live it. That's what I call religion or "way of life"

From this kind of forums the most valuable things I learn are How and why people think the way they think or believe. It helps me to understand life better. The purpose of life? Why we exists?

StopS asked a question to GoodLogic.

I am starting to doubt the logics of your logics.

Could you please explain what you mean by: "open" your mind?

Is your mind open enough to accept Thor as a god? Or are you so close minded that you will immediately reject any notion that Thor could be a god?
Have you closed your mind to the fact that Allah is the only god for you?
If you are so close minded on an issue, why do you expect others to be open minded on the very same issue?

Let me try to answer the question.

I am open minded enough to listen all that you say and think rationally about it. I am courage enough to accept the truth even though I don't like it or it hurts my feelings.

StopS said

Have you closed your mind to the fact that Allah is the only god for you?

No. Actually I think only God is the God. When I say "Laa Ilaaha Illallah" I mean "there is no god except the god". So I don't think Thor or Allah can be the god.

I like when you say

If a god is omniscient, he will know what evidence I require.
If a god is omnipotent, he can provide the evidence I require.
If a god is merciful, he will provide the evidence I require.

Anyone can believe in anything. A person can believe 1 + 1 = 5 too. But beliefs without reason or proof is just wishful thinking. 1 + 1 = 2 in reality even some of us may not like that.

I am happy I meet you truth-seeking people. Wish you good health and good life and better understanding of life.

"The ones who listen to all that is said, then follow the best. These are the ones whom God has guided; these are the ones who possess intelligence." (Qur?an 39:18)

[GODsubmitter]

It's pity that this thread didn't continue with good information. But this is an interesting thread that Confused has open up. In the way of life it's reasonable or even forced to think more than what you are used to believe or think.

We need to be able to discuss with respect to everyone's thinking and without imposing our self-understanding to others. Everybody have different life experiences and and we have different ways to understand life and how to live it. That's what I call religion or "way of life"

From this kind of forums the most valuable things I learn are How and why people think the way they think or believe. It helps me to understand life better. The purpose of life? Why we exists?

StopS asked a question to GoodLogic.

Let me try to answer the question.

I am open minded enough to listen all that you say and think rationally about it. I am courage enough to accept the truth even though I don't like it or it hurts my feelings.

StopS saidNo. Actually I think only God is the God. When I say "Laa Ilaaha Illallah" I mean "there is no god except the god". So I don't think Thor or Allah can be the god.

I like when you say

If a god is omniscient, he will know what evidence I require.
If a god is omnipotent, he can provide the evidence I require.
If a god is merciful, he will provide the evidence I require.

Anyone can believe in anything. A person can believe 1 + 1 = 5 too. But beliefs without reason or proof is just wishful thinking. 1 + 1 = 2 in reality even some of us may not like that.

I am happy I meet you truth-seeking people. Wish you good health and good life and better understanding of life.

"The ones who listen to all that is said, then follow the best. These are the ones whom God has guided; these are the ones who possess intelligence." (Qur?an 39:18)

Nice post, thank you

Peace

[Maha]

It is YOU who don't understand. I am not referring to anyone else. I am not latching on to anyone's post or question.

I am asking you some questions, which I am curious how you will answer them:

Could you please define what you mean by: "open" your mind?

Is your mind open enough to accept Thor as a god? Or are you so close minded that you will immediately reject any notion that Thor could be a god?
Have you closed your mind to the fact that Allah is the only god for you?
If you are so close minded on an issue, why do you expect others to be open minded on the very same issue?

peace.

Just wanted to say that being illogical is not the same as being open minded. Making Thor as you God is being illogical NOT open minded. Take the example of Abraham - he was open minded(logical) enough to reject the religion of his people while he rejected the sun as God as he found that illogical. And honestly, many of the things which happens around us are illogical but people accept it because they are narrow minded.

6:78    So when he saw the sun rising, he said: "This is my Lord, this is bigger." But when it disappeared he said: "My people, I am innocent of what you have set up."