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God or Allah. Wich is correct in English

Started by NielsJacob, August 01, 2015, 05:49:29 PM

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God or Allah?

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Farabi

Hi, I dont know have this answered? Im just reading the first post and the last post for the relevancy.

My personal faith is, Allah is a name. Ilah mean God, ilahatan mean gods (No capital as english accepted standard), where Robb mean Lord, which mean, the slave owner.

As for, is it  trouble to call God as exchange of Allah? Nope. Even you're allowed not to do sholat if you're under threatened situation, or worshiping an idol if you're beeing forced. So exchanging Allah to God is acceptable.

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Say, "Call upon Allah or call upon the Most Merciful. Whichever [name] you call - to Him belong the best names." And do not recite [too] loudly in your prayer or [too] quietly but seek between that an [intermediate] way.
Alishro:110
At first I thought I'll be neutral by replacing my emotional attachment, what then happened was, I switch my side from the other extreme to the other one. I had no idea what is neutrality.

Man of Faith

Freedomstands,

The Holy Spirit was calling not even a month ago. It is more recent than when I have written here before. I was complimented for my wisdom however and it confirmed that which I have been propagating here on the forum as correct.

Personally I now have things to do which could be considered more official than previously. The preachings are divinely supported. Even though I knew a lot earlier, I know much more now. The Spirit is in me.

Lately I have been turning my attention to another forum because I do not seek to disturb this religion here where my words are not desired.

Be well
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FreedomStands

Quote from: Man of Faith on August 10, 2015, 11:41:09 AM
Freedomstands,

The Holy Spirit was calling not even a month ago. It is more recent than when I have written here before. I was complimented for my wisdom however and it confirmed that which I have been propagating here on the forum as correct.

Personally I now have things to do which could be considered more official than previously. The preachings are divinely supported. Even though I knew a lot earlier, I know much more now. The Spirit is in me.

Lately I have been turning my attention to another forum because I do not seek to disturb this religion here where my words are not desired.

Be well

This is great news! Can you tell me in private what that other forum is? I won't bother you there or try to do the sparring business, I want to see though if possible.
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good logic

Peace Man Of Faith.

I am now worried about you. As a friend.
Please ponder Qoran ,then may be you will realise that you are starting to sound/act like a false prophet.

How can one tell the "holy spirit" has called on them?

Why would one want to be complimented by others?

How would one know the preaching is divinely supported unless they have "Bayinat" .i.e proper evidence from GOD?

Also if the preaching is divinely supported,one would not "run away" even if their words are not desired.

I hope you take my advice as constructive.

GOD bless you.
Peace.
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FreedomStands

Quote from: good logic on August 10, 2015, 05:53:04 PM
Peace Man Of Faith.

I am now worried about you. As a friend.
Please ponder Qoran ,then may be you will realise that you are starting to sound/act like a false prophet.

How can one tell the "holy spirit" has called on them?

Why would one want to be complimented by others?

How would one know the preaching is divinely supported unless they have "Bayinat" .i.e proper evidence from GOD?

Also if the preaching is divinely supported,one would not "run away" even if their words are not desired.

I hope you take my advice as constructive.

GOD bless you.
Peace.

1 Kings 22:22-
""The LORD said to him, 'How?' And he said, 'I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' Then He said, 'You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.' 23"Now therefore, behold, the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and the LORD has proclaimed disaster against you.""

2 Chronicles 18:21-
"He said, 'I will go and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' Then He said, 'You are to entice him and prevail also. Go and do so.' 22"Now therefore, behold, the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of these your prophets, for the LORD has proclaimed disaster against you."

Ezekiel 14:9
"'And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel.

Jeremiah 4:10
Then I said, "Alas, Sovereign LORD! How completely you have deceived this people and Jerusalem by saying, 'You will have peace,' when the sword is at our throats!"

Jeremiah 6:14
They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. 'Peace, peace,' they say, when there is no peace.

Jeremiah 6:15
Are they ashamed of their detestable conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when I punish them," says the LORD.

Jeremiah 14:15
Therefore this is what the LORD says about the prophets who are prophesying in my name: I did not officially them with warrant, yet they are saying, 'No sword or famine will touch this land.' Those same prophets will perish by sword and famine.

Ezekiel 14:10
They will bear their guilt--the prophet will be as guilty as the one who consults him.

Zechariah 13:3
And if anyone still prophesies, their father and mother, to whom they were born, will say to them, 'You must die, because you have told lies in the LORD's name.' Then their own parents will stab the one who prophesies.

1 Timothy 4:1
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

1 Timothy 4:2
Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

2 Peter 1:21
For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

Isaiah 30:10
They say to the seers, "See no more visions!" and to the prophets, "Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions.

Jeremiah 14:14
Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not warranted them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.

Jeremiah 23:26
New International Version
How long will this continue in the hearts of these lying prophets, who prophesy the delusions of their own minds?

New Living Translation
How long will this go on? If they are prophets, they are prophets of deceit, inventing everything they say.

English Standard Version
How long shall there be lies in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies, and who prophesy the deceit of their own heart,

Who intend to make My people forget My name by their dreams which they relate to one another, just as their fathers forgot My name because of Baal?

Luke 17:1
Jesus said to his disciples: "Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come.

2 Peter 2:1
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.

1 John 2:18
Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

Matthew 7:15
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

(I'm a ferocious one on the outside, so don't worry!)

Jeremiah 8:8
How can you say, ?We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us?? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has twisted it into a lie.

Jeremiah 23:16
This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.

Jeremiah 29:8
Yes, this is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: "Do not let the prophets and diviners among you deceive you. Do not listen to the dreams you encourage them to have.

1 Thessalonians 5:21
but test them all; hold on to what is good,

Revelation 2:2
I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.

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Man of Faith

Do not be worried, good logic. You will see I will have power to perform signs.

The interpretation of Quran is one.

I did not ask to be complimented, I was told I was wise, by God. One can figure out it is God when He says things very wise and knowledgeable not possible to be the production of any man and also relaying prophecies that happen to come true to verify the authenticity.

I do not run away. I am still here. But it is better to speak where your words are appreciated first of all. I am not to force people to listen.

Be well
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FreedomStands

Quote from: Man of Faith on August 11, 2015, 01:36:21 AM
Do not be worried, good logic. You will see I will have power to perform signs.

The interpretation of Quran is one.

I did not ask to be complimented, I was told I was wise, by God. One can figure out it is God when He says things very wise and knowledgeable not possible to be the production of any man and also relaying prophecies that happen to come true to verify the authenticity.

I do not run away. I am still here. But it is better to speak where your words are appreciated first of all. I am not to force people to listen.

Be well

Where is the other website? Maybe don't let all these people know in case they might fool around there making fun of you.

In any case though I totally want to know what God is saying and the whole thing as it goes on.
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Man of Faith

Freedomstands,

You are relaying passages that speak of people who self-proclaimed themselves as prophets and often used it as a political tool. But prophets are followed by some sort of sign and it is God's words and not their own.

Prophet is actually a very poor translation of the Arabic 'nabi' which means something else. Nabi means someone who has taken a step inside or has insight or is acquainted with something. But surely a nabi will be able to relay prophecies because they have the authority and can see things others cannot. What they can do is according to God's will and what their access to powers is. Manipulate the flesh is one power. Visions (insight into the future) is another. But they all hear God although God does not speak with a voice per se. I spoke of symbiosis before. And God said: "I am who am I".

Prophesying is a specific ability. It is also possible to determine the future in symbiosis with God. Whatever God accepts.

Actually you are right about many things in your preachings since God has a hand in everything because of its symbiotic nature with the Spirit of man. But only those who grow their Spirit have a part in God's Kingdom, being able to have influence. God is not a dictator. God may ask a question whether you accept something or not. It happens that I was asked: "Do you wish Me to move on?" (implying on finding someone else for His business). God does not force things on people although it may be very disadvantageous to say no because you have much to win carrying out God's plans. God also said: "You have been honored, do you not see?" Once made a choice (oath) however God will come with such as "I command you", but that is because you are like an employee. Breaking an oath would be very negative, but I made my firm decision without doubting once, desiring to serve God. Disobedience is not good and I have been threatened with the "wrath of God" concerning something.

I have been authorized to communicate with people about this however, using my wisdom.

Of course you might find me crazy. Thing is, it will be shown otherwise.

People will not like what God likes to be conveyed though, stuck in their Pagan religions with a strictly separate image of God. Same problem as always, like with that man Jesus. They did not like when he said: "I am in the Father and the Father in me", and so will people not like when I say it. But they ought to be attached to God in union, not idolize Jesus separately from the Father. God is your God and my God, and Jesus' God. And God (Rabb) means something like 'Foundation', or something like platform.

Allah is anyone who is it. "Is such as it". They are by their affinity connected to God, like a network node to the hub because their body is no longer a distraction (interference). And everyone's soul is a mirror of God's in terms of potential, they must just find themselves. If successful they will share the qualities of God, as much as God lets them. God determines everything about that.

Be well
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Man of Faith

Freedomstands,

The other site is still under development.
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FreedomStands

Quote from: Man of Faith on August 11, 2015, 02:31:44 AM
Freedomstands,

You are relaying passages that speak of people who self-proclaimed themselves as prophets and often used it as a political tool. But prophets are followed by some sort of sign and it is God's words and not their own.

Prophet is actually a very poor translation of the Arabic 'nabi' which means something else. Nabi means someone who has taken a step inside or has insight or is acquainted with something. But surely a nabi will be able to relay prophecies because they have the authority and can see things others cannot. What they can do is according to God's will and what their access to powers is. Manipulate the flesh is one power. Visions (insight into the future) is another. But they all hear God although God does not speak with a voice per se. I spoke of symbiosis before. And God said: "I am who am I".

Prophesying is a specific ability. It is also possible to determine the future in symbiosis with God. Whatever God accepts.

Actually you are right about many things in your preachings since God has a hand in everything because of its symbiotic nature with the Spirit of man. But only those who grow their Spirit have a part in God's Kingdom, being able to have influence. God is not a dictator. God may ask a question whether you accept something or not. It happens that I was asked: "Do you wish Me to move on?" (implying on finding someone else for His business). God does not force things on people although it may be very disadvantageous to say no because you have much to win carrying out God's plans. God also said: "You have been honored, do you not see?" Once made a choice (oath) however God will come with such as "I command you", but that is because you are like an employee. Breaking an oath would be very negative, but I made my firm decision without doubting once, desiring to serve God. Disobedience is not good and I have been threatened with the "wrath of God" concerning something.

I have been authorized to communicate with people about this however, using my wisdom.

Of course you might find me crazy. Thing is, it will be shown otherwise.

People will not like what God likes to be conveyed though, stuck in their Pagan religions with a strictly separate image of God. Same problem as always, like with that man Jesus. They did not like when he said: "I am in the Father and the Father in me", and so will people not like when I say it. But they ought to be attached to God in union, not idolize Jesus separately from the Father. God is your God and my God, and Jesus' God. And God (Rabb) means something like 'Foundation', or something like platform.

Allah is anyone who is it. "Is such as it". They are by their affinity connected to God, like a network node to the hub because their body is no longer a distraction (interference). And everyone's soul is a mirror of God's in terms of potential, they must just find themselves. If successful they will share the qualities of God, as much as God lets them. God determines everything about that.

Be well

Very good. Like I've said before, I do believe you are being told these things by God and what is happening to you is of course real and a real experience and it is definitely God doing it all. I'm also very happy because this is what I wanted. I was trying to push for just your plainly stated to everyone the communication with God and what you are told and I even think more people will be accepting of that too possibly. I didn't like the idea of going around and messing with the academic approach in a world of stern academics, but to go the route of direct communication statements, then no one can argue and fuss, what God tells you then they can only say you are mad, but they can't say oh look at this and what this academic says or whatever, when it is a matter of direct revelation or confirmation from God.

For me, God is Odin, Odin according to the Academics means some things including "Inspiration" the one that inspires, but this does not necessarily mean it is good for the person, sometimes the inspiration leads them to destruction, sometimes even that destruction is good though, and they end up in the spiritual halls of the noble fighters, rather than Hel.

So in my view, I am not just saying it that God is doing this to you, that is my real belief. Plus I am monitoring your beliefs and putting them to the test so you can say the right things in public, like you didn't go for the obviously disturbing genital mutilation business, that was an easy one to avoid and you avoided it well and explained well too.

There are many here under the power of Odin's inspiration, some enticed like mentioned in the Bible, others who might speak well, and Odin puts people into glorious combat of what is right and what is wrong.

You saw, I was urging on PeteWaldo and good logic to enter into battle and what was said, both PeteWaldo and good logic were fighting for what they thought was right and best, and PeteWaldo and good logic had in a sense the spirit upon them too.

The New Testament states something like "Do not think I come with peace, I come with the Sword".

Craziness of an individual isn't the point, they truly are all the servants of Odin, soldiers, pitched in combat, thrown into war to strive to attain to the halls of righteousness and nobility.

The Chosen, who prove they are chosen by their struggling and struggling against evil and falsehood and injustice.

lol http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Chosen

http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Zealot

"He is Tzeentch! The Changer of Ways! The Raven God! The Lord of Mutation! He is the master of all that changes, and the changer of all that remains! His will is Chaos, and all the creatures of Chaos are but fleeting thoughts in his vast mind!"

? Drang The Preacher, Zealot

59:24
He is Allah, the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms. To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare His Praises and Glory: and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.
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