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Started by Confused, November 29, 2012, 04:16:26 PM

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Confused

I've been wanting to write this thread for a while, but I just didn't know if I can find the words to express how I feel. I'm 32 years old. I was born in a Muslim country to a Muslim family. Until I was about 19, I followed Islam blindly. Then after 19, I started to doubt. I bought the bible and read it. I began surfing the net, logging into religious forums, exchanging ideas with people. Although the doubt continued to nag me, I still practiced Islam.
When I was 25, I moved to Australia. The experience was quite an eye opener. When you see a country that is so diverse, that has so many cultures and religions, it really changes you. it makes you think about the idea of a "one true religion" again. Is it possible that all these people are wrong and going to hell, and that only the people who practice one faith (whether Islam or Christianity or whatever) will go to paradise? Did God create us here just to worship him, and if we don't then he will throw us in hell? Isn't that a bit harsh?
Although my faith weakened during these years, I never really considered leaving Islam. What I did was try to fit my beliefs and morals with that of Islam. This was of course hard, since many of my values contradicted the teachings of Islam.
But still I continued to practice. When I returned to Egypt, I began working in an office which had 90% atheists. I didn't really care. I continued praying and fasting and doing my religious duties. But the doubts grew bigger and bigger. Then one day, a few months ago, I felt that I was lying to myself. I simply did not believe in Islam. I was just doing the rituals because I was just  to doing them I thought I need to face myself. I need to admit the truth. I am no longer a Muslim.
At this point, I consider myself an atheist/agnostic. I have still not made a decision on whether there is a God or not. I hope there is. I like the idea of a God who protects me and has my back.
Ever since I left Islam, I felt lighter, happier. I felt that I no longer had to practice something which I not only disliked, but actually abhorred.
However, the doubts come to me as an atheist, just as they used to come to me when I was a Muslim. What if I am wrong? What if Islam is indeed the truth? What if I go to hell for all eternity because of my decision?
The thing is I WANT to believe in Islam. I really do. It would make my life easier, especially in a conformist society like the one I live in. But I just don't. I guess faith is a bit like your appetite. You have to wait to be hungry. You cannot force yourself to be hungry. And I am just NOT hungry.
So I don't know what to do. This journey began when I was 19, so I've been living in confusion for 13 years. That's a long time. I want to find the truth and find peace. What should i do?

good logic

Peace Confused.

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Keep looking, asking, knocking on the door.

May the Creator open the door of His path to you.

Best of luck.
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es

If I were in your position, I would indulge in all sorts of debauchery. But I suppose that doesn't answer your question. Back to your question:
Quote from: Confused on November 29, 2012, 04:16:26 PM
What should i do?

Well, what do you want to do?

StopS

As an atheist I don't think you can expect any real advice or help. This is something you need to figure out yourself. Most of my colleagues are doubting and still "conform" to Islam and go to the mosque on a Friday to not start rumours about their "CONDITION".

What you need to figure out is how important spiritual guidance is for you and how, if your definition of a god include omniscience, you hope to cheat. Can you pretend to be something you are not? How much will this impose a feeling of oppression and fakery on you? What do you prefer? The feeling of freedom or guilt? You can't have both.

youssef4342


I suggest learning about the Mathematical Miracle of the Quran, as it helped me attain 100% certainty that God existed:
http://www.masjidtucson.org/quran/miracle/index.html
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Wakas

salaam Confused,

To me, it seems the answer to your concerns is simple.

Quote from: Confused on November 29, 2012, 04:16:26 PM
I simply did not believe in Islam.

Neither do I, and neither do many here.

The question you must now ask is "do you believe in islam?"
(please note the small "i" in islam)

To find out more, you must read:
http://www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/more.htm


QuoteI guess faith is a bit like your appetite. You have to wait to be hungry. You cannot force yourself to be hungry. And I am just NOT hungry.

I disagree. If you were not hungry you would not have created this thread and made the post you made.

QuoteWhat should i do?

Good question. It is one we are all asking.

A story:
Eric the penguin is in a similar position to you, he feels lost, unsure of himself, his prupose, goal in life, questions about life etc, and one day he is discussing with his fellow penguins and asks them what should I do? A seal happens to be close by and hears him ask his question, so he replies "Eric, do you have a beak?" Eric says yes. The seal continues "do you have a pair of flippers?" the penguin again says yes. The seal continues "do you hav a pair of feet?" Eric says yes. "Do you walk like a penguin, eat what penguin eat, live where penguin live, have a penguin mum and dad, have...." Feeling vexed at the rather obvious questions Eric replies "yes! yes to all of them, what is your point?". The seal replies "Well, it seems to me, that whoever or whatever brought you here, wants you to be a penguin, so since you're asking what should you do, I'd say "Be a penguin!".


Ponder in conjunction with the link I gave earlier :)
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es

Wakas, I like penguins, but I want to be a dolphin. I love dolphins!    :group: I like your example, but I think it would be much better if it was about dolphins rather than penguins!   :D

GODsubmitter

Quote from: youssef4342 on November 29, 2012, 05:57:04 PM
I suggest learning about the Mathematical Miracle of the Quran, as it helped me attain 100% certainty that God existed:
http://www.masjidtucson.org/quran/miracle/index.html

I agree with @youssef4342!
Read everything and all on that site http://www.masjidtucson.org/ , and learn the purified religion!
Then, if God wants to lead you astray, then that's it! He is the only One who chooses and decides who goes to hell or paradise.

Disbelievers probably have more sort of kind of "fun" in this world... well, just look at the advice this woman @es gave you:
QuoteIf I were in your position, I would indulge in all sorts of debauchery.
I couldn't even imagine that that kind of people/women were here on this Forum...
But then it is your fault, you asked for advice like a little kid (what should I do?)

You'd better pray God to guide you!  ;)
God has no Religion!

God is running everything.

Peace begins with me.

es

Quote from: GODsubmitter on November 29, 2012, 07:12:50 PM
I couldn't even imagine that that kind of people/women were here on this Forum...


I am unsure as to what exactly you are inferring to here  :confused: , but try not to think too much about things which are not meant in all seriousness.

Peace.

Assassino

Hello there Confused.

I'd say that I'm in the exact same boat as you. I have similar doubts, that have been bothering me ever since I started doubting Sunni Islam two years ago. I feel that since we grew up religion/faith, and kept it dear to our sides, we feel sadness when we know that we're heading towards disbelief - something previously alien to us. Personally, i'm drifting away to Agnostic Atheism, and if I state the truth, then I think I've been in denial about this for a good many months now.

What I feel is that instead of remaining in denial, you, me and everyone should embrace who you really are. There much more to life than beliefs. Besides, being a good person and enjoying life is the true purpose of life. No...what you make of life...thats your purpose, and it's completely subjective.

If you haven't read it yet, I made a thread a couple of days ago on this topic highlighting the reasons why I've been heading towards disbelief. Give it a read, I think you'll be able to relate to it. I'd also appreciate it if you drop a post or two, so that we can highlight some common ground between us. :)

Here it is:

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604718.0

Take care of your self!