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Faith without good work is useless!

Started by youssef4342, October 18, 2012, 07:03:24 PM

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youssef4342

Peace everyone  :peace:
Faith without good work is useless!
A common belief amongst traditional Muslims is that if you say the shahada, or your proclamation of your Islamic faith, you?re basically saved, even if you say it at the time of your death.
However, this is not what the Quran suggests. The Quran suggests that if you believe at the last minute WITHOUT benefiting from your belief (e.g doing good deeds), it?s kind of too late (6:158)
An example of that is Pharoah. He did believe at the last minute (announced his belief) and he Became muslim at the last minute 10:90. However, his belief at the last minute didn't help him.
You need Faith AND good deeds.
There are many verses, around 160, that read, ?Those who believed AND did good deeds?
You thus need BOTH faith & good deeds. You cannot have one without the other.

(Also note that Repentance at the last minute/time of death doesn't work either (4:18)

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Faith Without Good Work is Useless!
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mirjamnur

Salam Youssef
this is exactly, what i take out from the Quran

the devil has changed the focus of the Muslims, from the focus, believe and do good (aminu wa amilus salihat) which occurs so often in the Qur'an and which I understand, to believe and do good for OTHERS first ( man, nature, animals, etc) and respect all creations from the earth and treat them carefully -to do  for my next, what i wish to find for  myself - the devil - or the devilish helper who maked 1000 Ahadith to change the powerful Quranic message , writings that stimulates the Muslims count for Hasana and to do good for himself first (fasting to pray in the night prostrating himself) - but this doing good has no effect on their lives-- is useless, since it did not change their hearts (best example of the ritual prayer)
The prayer is done to collect Hasanas and even the study of the Quran .... According to many Ahadiht that the reward is dependent only on the number of pages readed or  recited by heart-  secondary sources tell nothing about  the implementation of what they read... :( :( :( :(
May Allah accept all your efforts and help us to spread his message in the earth.
Salams :)

youssef4342

Peace  :peace:
Yes I agree.
Studying the Quran and prayers/salat would have it's good deeds.
But God did not command us to be HERMITS!
Go out, stand up for justice, and stand against tyranny. Help others, try to have a positive influence upon others & try to make the world a better place  :!
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