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#### Mazhar

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##### Re: Inheritance according to Qur�an
« Reply #720 on: July 20, 2019, 09:27:30 AM »
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1.   1/6 mother, 1/8 wife, 17/24 children (no difference if daughters or sons alone)

Who has died?
Specific quote from Que'an needed for these hypothetical sharing.

#### Noon waalqalami

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##### Re: Inheritance according to Qur�an
« Reply #721 on: July 21, 2019, 09:24:41 AM »
^^^ hint wife is heir! It’s OK -- if you don’t ask dumb questions, you’ll never get over being dumb!
The other possibility asking who died heirs mother, wife, children is dementia which there's no cure.

This is the main issue not only with inheritance complete lack of basic if then else logic. They do not know how to allocate simple cases e.g. parents and daughters; if include a spouse, they are totally clueless and likewise kalala case when siblings can inherit along with parents (see 4:11) clearly stated and in all cases can only have one variable otherwise impossible to solve; this is basic mathematics.

1/3 mother (fixed 4:11), 2/3 father (variable)

Peace huruf, thank you it means a lot! Prior posts 1, 2, 3+ females to 1 male ratios.
Here's a test anyone who answers all six correctly – I’ll send a gift card \$600 prize!

1.   mother, wife, 2 daughters (simple)
2.   parents, wife, 2 daughters, 2 sons (not difficult)
3.   parents, wife, 5 daughters, 2 sons (advanced)

4.   mother, 2 sisters, 1 brother (simple)
5.   mother, 5 sisters, 2 brothers (includes: uterine, full, father uncertain)
6.   parents, 8 sisters, 3 brothers (forward-thinking mastered the subject)

comment: there is no difference full/uterine siblings i.e. same mother (7:150)
father can be uncertain e.g. rape, slavery, war, brothel, etc., regardless sibling!

4. 2/3 mother (variable), 1/3 siblings {2/3*1/3=2/9 two sisters (1/9 each), 1/9 brother}
5. 2/3 mother (variable), 1/3 siblings (see below 5:2 ratio is same 2.5:1 ratio 4:176)
6. 1/6 mother (fixed), 1/2 father (variable), 1/3 siblings (see below 8:3 ratio 4:176)

Here is scaling males mixed siblings notice consistency f/m ratios e.g. 1,1 2,2 3,3 all share equally.
Cannot have one part of verse contradict another. Notice difference 4:11 and 4:176 if 2+ females.

4:176 mixed gender siblings – sisters and brothers
f:m ratio ....... 1.0000 ......... 0.5000 ......... 0.3333 ......... 0.2500 ........ 0.2000 ........... 0.1667
f, m mult ....... 1, 1 1x ......... 1, 2 1/2x ...... 1, 3 1/3x ...... 1, 4 1/4x ...... 1, 5 1/5x ........ 1, 6 1/6x
f, m total ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ......... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/4 ....... 1/2, 1/6 ....... 1/2, 1/8 ....... 1/2, 1/10 ....... 1/2, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 2.0000 ......... 1.0000 ......... 0.6667 ......... 0.5000 ......... 0.4000 ........... 0.3333
f, m mult ....... 2, 1 1x ......... 2, 2 1x .......... 2, 3 2/3x ...... 2, 4 1/2x ...... 2, 5 2/5x ........ 2, 6 1/3x
f, m total ....... 2/3, 1/3 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ......... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/3, 1/3 ....... 1/4, 1/4 ....... 1/4, 1/6 ....... 1/4, 1/8 ....... 1/4, 1/10 ....... 1/4, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 3.0000 ......... 1.5000 ......... 1.0000 ......... 0.7500 ......... 0.6000 ............ 0.5000
f, m mult ....... 3, 1 2x ......... 3, 2 3/2x ....... 3, 3 1x ......... 3, 4 3/4x ...... 3, 5 3/5x ......... 3, 6 1/2x
f, m total ....... 3/5, 2/5 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ........... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/5, 2/5 ....... 1/6, 1/4 ....... 1/6, 1/6 ....... 1/6, 1/8 ....... 1/6, 1/10 ......... 1/6, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 4.0000 ......... 2.0000 .......... 1.3333 ......... 1.0000 ......... 0.8000 ............ 0.6667
f, m mult ....... 4, 1 2x ......... 4, 2 1x ........... 4, 3 4/3x ...... 4, 4 1x ......... 4, 5 4/5x .......... 4, 6 2/3x
f, m total ....... 2/3, 1/3 ....... 2/3, 1/3 ........ 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ........... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/6, 1/3 ....... 1/6, 1/6 ........ 1/8, 1/6 ....... 1/8, 1/8 ....... 1/8, 1/10 ......... 1/8, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 5.0000 ......... 2.5000 ........... 1.6667 ........ 1.2500 ......... 1.0000 ............. 0.8333
f, m mult ....... 5, 1 2x ......... 5, 2 5/4x ........ 5, 3 5/3x ...... 5, 4 5/4x ...... 5, 5 1x ............. 5, 6 5/6x
f, m total ....... 5/7, 2/7 ....... 2/3, 1/3 ......... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ........... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/7, 2/7 ....... 2/15, 1/6 ....... 1/10, 1/6 ..... 1/10, 1/8 ...... 1/10, 1/10 ....... 1/10, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 6.0000 ......... 3.0000 ........... 2.0000 ......... 1.5000 .......... 1.2000 ............ 1.0000
f, m mult ....... 6, 1 2x ......... 6, 2 2x ............ 6, 3 1x ......... 6, 4 3/2x ....... 6, 5 6/5x .......... 6, 6 1x
f, m total ....... 3/4, 1/4 ....... 3/5, 2/5 ......... 2/3, 1/3 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ........ 1/2, 1/2 ........... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/8, 1/4 ....... 1/10, 1/5 ....... 1/9, 1/9 ....... 1/12, 1/8 ...... 1/12, 1/10 ....... 1/12, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 7.0000 .......... 3.5000 .......... 2.3333 ......... 1.7500 .......... 1.4000 ............ 1.1667
f, m mult ....... 7, 1 2x .......... 7, 2 2x .......... 7, 3 7/6x ...... 7, 4 7/4x ....... 7, 5 7/5x .......... 7, 6 7/6x
f, m total ....... 7/9, 2/9 ........ 7/11, 4/11 ..... 2/3, 1/3 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ......... 1/2, 1/2 .......... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/9, 2/9 ........ 1/11, 2/11 ..... 2/21, 1/9 ..... 1/14, 1/8 ...... 1/14, 1/10 ....... 1/14, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 8.0000 .......... 4.0000 .......... 2.6667 .......... 2.0000 ......... 1.6000 ............. 1.3333
f, m mult ....... 8, 1 2x .......... 8, 2 2x .......... 8, 3 4/3x ....... 8, 4 1x .......... 8, 5 8/5x .......... 8, 6 4/3x
f, m total ....... 4/5, 1/5 ........ 2/3, 1/3 ........ 2/3, 1/3 ......... 2/3, 1/3 ........ 1/2, 1/2 ........... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/10, 1/5 ...... 1/12, 1/6 ...... 1/12, 1/9 ...... 1/12, 1/1 ....... 1/16, 1/10 ....... 1/16, 1/12

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##### Re: Inheritance according to Qur�an
« Reply #722 on: July 21, 2019, 02:38:41 PM »
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1/6 mother, 1/8 wife, 17/24 children (no difference if daughters or sons alone)

But Qur'an says one half will go to her if there is one daughter.

#### Noon waalqalami

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« Reply #723 on: July 23, 2019, 05:04:20 AM »
^^^ pertains to mixed gender logical nested loop  فان fa-in/so if  وان wa-in/and if

4:11 two in relation to male; three+ in relation to male; one in relation to male
4:176 one in relation to male; two in relation to male; three+ in relation to male

ELSE IF girls alone THEN no instructions in 4:11 for exactly two!
ELSE IF girls alone THEN no instructions in 4:176 for over three!

Rules of inheritance - Dr.Mohamad Shahrour (Episode.2)

https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/4/vers/176/handschrift/73

#### Mazhar

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##### Re: Inheritance according to Qur�an
« Reply #724 on: July 23, 2019, 08:27:19 AM »
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^^^ pertains to mixed gender logical nested loop  فان fa-in/so if  وان wa-in/and if

4:11 two in relation to male; three+ in relation to male; one in relation to male
4:176 one in relation to male; two in relation to male; three+ in relation to male

ELSE IF girls alone THEN no instructions in 4:11 for exactly two!
ELSE IF girls alone THEN no instructions in 4:176 for over three!

فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

وَإِن كَانَتْ وَٟحِدَةٙ فَلَـهَا ٱلنِّصْفُۚ

نِسَآءٙ it means three or more woman; they get two thirds.

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##### Re: Inheritance according to Qur�an
« Reply #725 on: July 24, 2019, 08:56:37 PM »

#### huruf

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« Reply #726 on: July 25, 2019, 01:40:19 AM »
Thank you again, Nun for this document. It is a very detailed job and I realise the amount of work and dedication you have put into it. I have unloaded. Hopefully along the way I may have the opportunity to "dissect it".

Salaam

#### Noon waalqalami

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« Reply #727 on: June 14, 2020, 10:07:49 PM »
Thank you again, Nun for this document. It is a very detailed job and I realise the amount of work and dedication you have put into it. I have unloaded. Hopefully along the way I may have the opportunity to "dissect it".

Salaam

peace huruf et al see update with slightly better format.

likewise spouse and parents notice mother's share minimum 1/3

4:11 ... فان so if لم not يكن beeth له for him (said person) ولد offspring وورثه and inherit him ابواه parents dual his {i.e. if both parents alive else shares variable} فلامه so to mother his الثلث the third (1/3)

mother 1/3 (fixed) father 2/3 (variable)

4:12 ولكم and for you نصف half (1/2) ما what ترك left ازوجكم spouses yours ان if لم not يكن beeth لهن for them ولد offspring

mother 1/3 (fixed) husband (2/3 * 1/2 = 1/3) father 1/3 (variable)

mother 1/3 (fixed) husband 1/2 (false) father 1/6 (variable)
mother (1/2 * 1/3 = 1/6 false) husband 1/2 (false) father 1/3 (variable)
mother 1/4 (variable false) husband 1/2 (false) father 1/4 (variable)

4:12 ولهن and for them الربع the fourth (1/4) مما from what تركتم left you ان if لم not يكن beeth لكم for you ولد offspring

wife 1/4 (fixed) mother 1/3 (fixed) father 5/12 (variable)