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Inheritance according to Qur?an

Started by Noon waalqalami, July 04, 2012, 02:45:51 PM

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Mazhar

Quote1.   1/6 mother, 1/8 wife, 17/24 children (no difference if daughters or sons alone)

Who has died?
Specific quote from Que'an needed for these hypothetical sharing.
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Noon waalqalami

^^^ hint wife is heir! It's OK -- if you don't ask dumb questions, you'll never get over being dumb!
The other possibility asking who died heirs mother, wife, children is dementia which there's no cure.

This is the main issue not only with inheritance complete lack of basic if then else logic. They do not know how to allocate simple cases e.g. parents and daughters; if include a spouse, they are totally clueless and likewise kalala case when siblings can inherit along with parents (see 4:11) clearly stated and in all cases can only have one variable otherwise impossible to solve; this is basic mathematics.

1/3 mother (fixed 4:11), 2/3 father (variable)

Quote from: Noon waalqalami on June 29, 2019, 11:21:47 PM
Peace huruf, thank you it means a lot! Prior posts 1, 2, 3+ females to 1 male ratios.
Here's a test anyone who answers all six correctly – I'll send a gift card $600 prize!

1.   mother, wife, 2 daughters (simple)
2.   parents, wife, 2 daughters, 2 sons (not difficult)
3.   parents, wife, 5 daughters, 2 sons (advanced)

4.   mother, 2 sisters, 1 brother (simple)
5.   mother, 5 sisters, 2 brothers (includes: uterine, full, father uncertain)
6.   parents, 8 sisters, 3 brothers (forward-thinking mastered the subject)


comment: there is no difference full/uterine siblings i.e. same mother (7:150)
father can be uncertain e.g. rape, slavery, war, brothel, etc., regardless sibling!

4. 2/3 mother (variable), 1/3 siblings {2/3*1/3=2/9 two sisters (1/9 each), 1/9 brother}
5. 2/3 mother (variable), 1/3 siblings (see below 5:2 ratio is same 2.5:1 ratio 4:176)
6. 1/6 mother (fixed), 1/2 father (variable), 1/3 siblings (see below 8:3 ratio 4:176)

Here is scaling males mixed siblings notice consistency f/m ratios e.g. 1,1 2,2 3,3 all share equally.
Cannot have one part of verse contradict another. Notice difference 4:11 and 4:176 if 2+ females.

4:176 mixed gender siblings – sisters and brothers
f:m ratio ....... 1.0000 ......... 0.5000 ......... 0.3333 ......... 0.2500 ........ 0.2000 ........... 0.1667
f, m mult ....... 1, 1 1x ......... 1, 2 1/2x ...... 1, 3 1/3x ...... 1, 4 1/4x ...... 1, 5 1/5x ........ 1, 6 1/6x
f, m total ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ......... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/4 ....... 1/2, 1/6 ....... 1/2, 1/8 ....... 1/2, 1/10 ....... 1/2, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 2.0000 ......... 1.0000 ......... 0.6667 ......... 0.5000 ......... 0.4000 ........... 0.3333
f, m mult ....... 2, 1 1x ......... 2, 2 1x .......... 2, 3 2/3x ...... 2, 4 1/2x ...... 2, 5 2/5x ........ 2, 6 1/3x
f, m total ....... 2/3, 1/3 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ......... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/3, 1/3 ....... 1/4, 1/4 ....... 1/4, 1/6 ....... 1/4, 1/8 ....... 1/4, 1/10 ....... 1/4, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 3.0000 ......... 1.5000 ......... 1.0000 ......... 0.7500 ......... 0.6000 ............ 0.5000
f, m mult ....... 3, 1 2x ......... 3, 2 3/2x ....... 3, 3 1x ......... 3, 4 3/4x ...... 3, 5 3/5x ......... 3, 6 1/2x
f, m total ....... 3/5, 2/5 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ........... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/5, 2/5 ....... 1/6, 1/4 ....... 1/6, 1/6 ....... 1/6, 1/8 ....... 1/6, 1/10 ......... 1/6, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 4.0000 ......... 2.0000 .......... 1.3333 ......... 1.0000 ......... 0.8000 ............ 0.6667
f, m mult ....... 4, 1 2x ......... 4, 2 1x ........... 4, 3 4/3x ...... 4, 4 1x ......... 4, 5 4/5x .......... 4, 6 2/3x
f, m total ....... 2/3, 1/3 ....... 2/3, 1/3 ........ 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ........... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/6, 1/3 ....... 1/6, 1/6 ........ 1/8, 1/6 ....... 1/8, 1/8 ....... 1/8, 1/10 ......... 1/8, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 5.0000 ......... 2.5000 ........... 1.6667 ........ 1.2500 ......... 1.0000 ............. 0.8333
f, m mult ....... 5, 1 2x ......... 5, 2 5/4x ........ 5, 3 5/3x ...... 5, 4 5/4x ...... 5, 5 1x ............. 5, 6 5/6x
f, m total ....... 5/7, 2/7 ....... 2/3, 1/3 ......... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ........... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/7, 2/7 ....... 2/15, 1/6 ....... 1/10, 1/6 ..... 1/10, 1/8 ...... 1/10, 1/10 ....... 1/10, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 6.0000 ......... 3.0000 ........... 2.0000 ......... 1.5000 .......... 1.2000 ............ 1.0000
f, m mult ....... 6, 1 2x ......... 6, 2 2x ............ 6, 3 1x ......... 6, 4 3/2x ....... 6, 5 6/5x .......... 6, 6 1x
f, m total ....... 3/4, 1/4 ....... 3/5, 2/5 ......... 2/3, 1/3 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ........ 1/2, 1/2 ........... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/8, 1/4 ....... 1/10, 1/5 ....... 1/9, 1/9 ....... 1/12, 1/8 ...... 1/12, 1/10 ....... 1/12, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 7.0000 .......... 3.5000 .......... 2.3333 ......... 1.7500 .......... 1.4000 ............ 1.1667
f, m mult ....... 7, 1 2x .......... 7, 2 2x .......... 7, 3 7/6x ...... 7, 4 7/4x ....... 7, 5 7/5x .......... 7, 6 7/6x
f, m total ....... 7/9, 2/9 ........ 7/11, 4/11 ..... 2/3, 1/3 ....... 1/2, 1/2 ......... 1/2, 1/2 .......... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/9, 2/9 ........ 1/11, 2/11 ..... 2/21, 1/9 ..... 1/14, 1/8 ...... 1/14, 1/10 ....... 1/14, 1/12

f:m ratio ....... 8.0000 .......... 4.0000 .......... 2.6667 .......... 2.0000 ......... 1.6000 ............. 1.3333
f, m mult ....... 8, 1 2x .......... 8, 2 2x .......... 8, 3 4/3x ....... 8, 4 1x .......... 8, 5 8/5x .......... 8, 6 4/3x
f, m total ....... 4/5, 1/5 ........ 2/3, 1/3 ........ 2/3, 1/3 ......... 2/3, 1/3 ........ 1/2, 1/2 ........... 1/2, 1/2
f, m each ....... 1/10, 1/5 ...... 1/12, 1/6 ...... 1/12, 1/9 ...... 1/12, 1/1 ....... 1/16, 1/10 ....... 1/16, 1/12

peace!

Mazhar

Quote1/6 mother, 1/8 wife, 17/24 children (no difference if daughters or sons alone)

But Qur'an says one half will go to her if there is one daughter.
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Noon waalqalami

^^^ pertains to mixed gender logical nested loop  فان fa-in/so if  وان wa-in/and if

4:11 two in relation to male; three+ in relation to male; one in relation to male
4:176 one in relation to male; two in relation to male; three+ in relation to male

ELSE IF girls alone THEN no instructions in 4:11 for exactly two!
ELSE IF girls alone THEN no instructions in 4:176 for over three!

Rules of inheritance - Dr.Mohamad Shahrour (Episode.2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfvjAoRpIk

https://corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/4/vers/176/handschrift/73


Mazhar

Quote^^^ pertains to mixed gender logical nested loop  فان fa-in/so if  وان wa-in/and if

4:11 two in relation to male; three+ in relation to male; one in relation to male
4:176 one in relation to male; two in relation to male; three+ in relation to male

ELSE IF girls alone THEN no instructions in 4:11 for exactly two!
ELSE IF girls alone THEN no instructions in 4:176 for over three!


فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ


وَإِن كَانَتْ وَٟحِدَةٙ فَلَـهَا ٱلنِّصْفُۚ

نِسَآءٙ it means three or more woman; they get two thirds.
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huruf

Thank you again, Nun for this document. It is a very detailed job and I realise the amount of work and dedication you have put into it. I have unloaded. Hopefully along the way I may have the opportunity to "dissect it".

Salaam

Noon waalqalami

Quote from: huruf on July 25, 2019, 04:40:19 AM
Thank you again, Nun for this document. It is a very detailed job and I realise the amount of work and dedication you have put into it. I have unloaded. Hopefully along the way I may have the opportunity to "dissect it".

Salaam

peace huruf et al see update with slightly better format.

https://www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

likewise spouse and parents notice mother's share minimum 1/3

4:11 ... فان so if لم not يكن beeth له for him (said person) ولد offspring وورثه and inherit him ابواه parents dual his {i.e. if both parents alive else shares variable} فلامه so to mother his الثلث the third (1/3)

mother 1/3 (fixed) father 2/3 (variable)

4:12 ولكم and for you نصف half (1/2) ما what ترك left ازوجكم spouses yours ان if لم not يكن beeth لهن for them ولد offspring

mother 1/3 (fixed) husband (2/3 * 1/2 = 1/3) father 1/3 (variable)

mother 1/3 (fixed) husband 1/2 (false) father 1/6 (variable)
mother (1/2 * 1/3 = 1/6 false) husband 1/2 (false) father 1/3 (variable)
mother 1/4 (variable false) husband 1/2 (false) father 1/4 (variable)


4:12 ولهن and for them الربع the fourth (1/4) مما from what تركتم left you ان if لم not يكن beeth لكم for you ولد offspring

wife 1/4 (fixed) mother 1/3 (fixed) father 5/12 (variable)

TellMeTheTruth

Salam!

Is this calculator finalized?

Peace!

Noon waalqalami

Quote from: TellMeTheTruth on March 30, 2021, 07:58:41 AM
Salam!

Is this calculator finalized?

Peace!

peace!
yes calculations download the paper not calculator best to go over each example as my old calculus professor once said final test "it's open book bring a friend I'll even give the answer only have to show your work otherwise it's pointless."

solve these two have good understanding

case 1 — a woman leaves inheritors
husband parents and seven children
son and two daughters (prior marriage)
son and three daughters (current marriage)


case 2 — a man leaves inheritors
parents and seven siblings ie kala case reference 4:11, 4:12, 4:176 and other verses
brother and two sisters (same father)
brother and three sisters (different father)

https://www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance