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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #810 on: November 16, 2022, 07:55:34 AM »
When two daughters exist then the template is restricted to:

يُوصِيكُـمُ ٱللَّهُ فِـىٓ أَوْلَٟدِكُمْۖ

2/3 of heritage is theirs.
1/3 remaining by the bequeath, if died suddenly without bequeath elders of family will decide for parents and near relatives.
:nope: decision by Mazhar's group of nineteen (masculine) morons! تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً
family would split your bullhead talking bullshit in two (exactly two!)

for the benefit of other readers: siblings get nothing!
1/3 parents 1/8 wife 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

Quote from: Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 06:42:39 AM

https://www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

the thread is all yours! have fun in the fire liar!

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #811 on: November 16, 2022, 12:34:08 PM »
:nope: decision by Mazhar's group of nineteen (masculine) morons! تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً
family would split your bullhead talking bullshit in two (exactly two!)

for the benefit of other readers: siblings get nothing!
1/3 parents 1/8 wife 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

Quote from: Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 06:42:39 AM

https://www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

the thread is all yours! have fun in the fire liar!

1/3 parents 1/8 wife 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

Relate it with the text of Qur"an. Otherwise it is just gossip.  You seem not interested reading Qur'an. Where is 13/24 figure written in Qur'an?

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #812 on: November 16, 2022, 11:34:49 PM »
1/3 parents 1/8 wife 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

Where is 13/24 figure written in Qur'an?

1/3 parents (fixed 4:11) 1/8 wife (fixed 4:12) 13/24 remainder to children (variable)
1/3 parents (fixed 4:11) 1/8 wife (fixed 4:12) 13/24 to daughter/s OR son/s (variable)

always fixed amounts and one variable!
check out precision! who to payoff first!

1/3 mother (fixed 4:11) 2/3 remainder to father (variable)
1/3 mother (fixed 4:11) 1/4 wife (fixed "from what left" 4:12) 5/12 to father (variable)
1/3 mother (fixed 4:11) 1/3 husband (1/2*2/3 "what left" 4:12) 1/3 to father (variable)

simple logic! any combination!

Quote from: Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 06:42:39 AM
https://www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #813 on: November 17, 2022, 12:01:51 AM »
1/3 parents (fixed 4:11) 1/8 wife (fixed 4:12) 13/24 remainder to children (variable)
1/3 parents (fixed 4:11) 1/8 wife (fixed 4:12) 13/24 to daughter/s OR son/s (variable)

always fixed amounts and one variable!
check out precision! who to payoff first!

1/3 mother (fixed 4:11) 2/3 remainder to father (variable)
1/3 mother (fixed 4:11) 1/4 wife (fixed "from what left" 4:12) 5/12 to father (variable)
1/3 mother (fixed 4:11) 1/3 husband (1/2*2/3 "what left" 4:12) 1/3 to father (variable)

simple logic! any combination!

Quote from: Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 06:42:39 AM
https://www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

Earlier quote:  13/24 daughters (same if sons)

This is because of the knots you have made in your brain, nothing to match it with source text.

Source text begins with children and says:

:10١٠

يُوصِيكُـمُ ٱللَّهُ فِـىٓ أَوْلَٟدِكُمْۖ

لِلذَّكَرِ مِثْلُ حَظِّ ٱلۡأُنْثَيَيْـنِۚ

فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

This is the verdict of Allah swt. It is categorically fixed. But your imagination is:
13/24 to daughters 

Try to read and go by the book. Don't be Rashad Khalifa to play with digits by hook and crook.


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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #814 on: November 17, 2022, 12:08:49 AM »
To help you untie the knots in your brain reflect and try to understand the importance of my earlier question to you.

These verbs have a pronoun in them: كُنَّ ; كَانَتْ; كَانَتَا ; كَانَ.

Can all these four refer the above noun:  أولادكم  awladikum?

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #815 on: November 17, 2022, 03:37:21 AM »
Try to read and go by the book. Don't be Rashad Khalifa to play with digits by hook and crook.

did you not play with nineteen in your other amazing word count thread?
did you not post absurdity parents, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters, brother?

2/3 of heritage is theirs.
1/3 remaining by the bequeath, if died suddenly without bequeath elders of family will decide for parents and near relatives.

you gave 2/3 to exactly two daughters?
you gave 1/3 to father, mother, wife, 6 sisters, brother

you say heck with 4:11 (1/6), 4:12 (1/8) let others decide? 

part of understanding the solution in any field is to understand the problem
take out 2 daughters and wife which you wrongly allocated then you decide?  :laugh:

parents, 6 sisters, brother
one half sister (same mother)
two half sisters (same father) and bother
three full sisters (same father and mother)

above is kalala case each gets a share

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5588
Narrated Ibn `Umar:
...`Umar added, "I wish Allah's Apostle had not left us before he had given us definite verdicts concerning three matters, i.e., how much a grandfather may inherit, the inheritance of Al-Kalala, and various types of Riba (usury) ."



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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #816 on: November 17, 2022, 04:57:45 AM »
did you not play with nineteen in your other amazing word count thread?
did you not post absurdity parents, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters, brother?

you gave 2/3 to exactly two daughters?
you gave 1/3 to father, mother, wife, 6 sisters, brother

you say heck with 4:11 (1/6), 4:12 (1/8) let others decide? 

part of understanding the solution in any field is to understand the problem
take out 2 daughters and wife which you wrongly allocated then you decide?  :laugh:

parents, 6 sisters, brother
one half sister (same mother)
two half sisters (same father) and bother
three full sisters (same father and mother)

above is kalala case each gets a share

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5588
Narrated Ibn `Umar:
...`Umar added, "I wish Allah's Apostle had not left us before he had given us definite verdicts concerning three matters, i.e., how much a grandfather may inherit, the inheritance of Al-Kalala, and various types of Riba (usury) ."

You have gone absolutely absurd. You are just to prove your stupid mathematics defying plain straight forward injunction:

:10١٠

يُوصِيكُـمُ ٱللَّهُ فِـىٓ أَوْلَٟدِكُمْۖ

لِلذَّكَرِ مِثْلُ حَظِّ ٱلۡأُنْثَيَيْـنِۚ

فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَ

Allah swt says 2/3rd, you say no it is 13/24...
So long you revert from patent stupidity and answer simple question which could help you get out of absurd calculations, be in peace,

These verbs have a pronoun in them: كُنَّ ; كَانَتْ; كَانَتَا ; كَانَ.

Can all these four refer the above noun:  أولادكم  awladikum?

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #817 on: November 17, 2022, 07:44:33 AM »
Allah swt says 2/3rd, you say no it is 13/24...

yes 13/24 is 100% accurate!  :laugh:

and you are 100% telling lies!  >:D

Quote from: Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 06:42:39 AM
https://www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

parents, 6 sisters, brother
one half sister (same mother)
two half sisters (same father) and bother
three full sisters (same father and mother)

we are waiting for your answer to above?

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #818 on: November 17, 2022, 07:59:59 AM »
yes 13/24 is 100% accurate!  :laugh:

and you are 100% telling lies!  >:D

Quote from: Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 06:42:39 AM
https://www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

parents, 6 sisters, brother
one half sister (same mother)
two half sisters (same father) and bother
three full sisters (same father and mother)

we are waiting for your answer to above?

Now you are becoming funny. Enjoy your gimmicks. Thanks.

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #819 on: November 17, 2022, 10:15:30 AM »
parents, 6 sisters, brother
one half sister (same mother)
two half sisters (same father) and bother
three full sisters (same father and mother)

https://sunnah.com/muslim:1617a
Hadrat 'Umar (then) said: If I live I would give such verdict about (Kalala) that everyone would be able to decide whether he reads the Qur'an or he does not.

Quote from: Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 06:42:39 AM
https://www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

half-siblings or full-siblings are siblings!

1/6 mother (fixed 4:11) 1/3 siblings (fixed 4:12 1/3 max) 1/2 father (variable)
1/3 siblings 4:176 so to the male similitude apportion the females two
(1/3 * 1/8) 1/24 each sister (1/3 * 1/4) 1/12 brother
6/24 six sisters + 2/24 brother = 8/24 = 1/3