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Pre-Islamic Summer Solstice Commemorations

Started by Roshan, June 28, 2012, 10:07:41 AM

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Roshan

Peace:

I have come to the conclusion that the Islamic Ramadan involves a handful of fasts around the summer solstice. I appreciate there are many people who may disagree with this.

However given the first sentence, I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of any pre-Islamic (or even post-Islamic [although the history may have been white-washed]) historical evidences of celebrations around the summer solstice.

Roshan

Wakas

In terms of Arabia-region, almost no written sources exist pre-Quran, but from post-Quran sources, some say the Arabs fasted for various things to atone, and in the month of Rajab (a holy month, apparently). Christians had Lent, Jews e.g. Ashura/Asora. Not sure about timings however.
However, during certain times of year, festivals/fairs were held, so this could also be an avenue to explore.

From: http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597976.90

Quote from: wakas
I only read up on "hagg sukot" (Feast of Tabernacles) today and it seems its core aspects are very similar to HJJ of AQ:
http://www.wildolive.co.uk/sukot.htm

The word "tabernacles" come from tents, which implies travel and likely to certain location for a festival/feast/gathering. The timing seems similar. They also remember God, utilise/celebrate the Torah, spread the message, and it is open for all nations apparently. It also talks about representatives.

Quote from: aymanYes the timing of Hagg Sukot coincides with the fourth full-moon after the summer solstice (the last of the four inviolable full-moons). If you look at the essence of Hagg Sukot beyond the manmade rituals, it is essentially a harvest feast to eat and feed others and thank the god for the harvest. As you noted, probably the tents are remenants pointing to both the travel aspect and the need to accomodate the masses coming to the inviolable house.

Also, 10 days of abstinence seems to be what the earliest "muslims" did, even according to Traditional Islamic sources.
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Peace.
I have little knowledge on this, however, there is some hints of Quraish having a travel routine every Winter and Summer as per 106:2
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Quote from: youssef4342 on June 29, 2012, 02:02:58 AM
Peace.
I have little knowledge on this, however, there is some hints of Quraish having a travel routine every Winter and Summer as per 106:2

Thanks, I didn't know the Quran was a Puzzle.
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Roshan

Peace Wakas, Youssef:

Thanks for the links.

My understand of 'ramadan' really has evolved (or it could be argued reversed) over time.

Roshan

ayman

Quote from: youssef4342 on June 29, 2012, 02:02:58 AMI have little knowledge on this, however, there is some hints of Quraish having a travel routine every Winter and Summer as per 106:2

The word "sayf" mentioned in 106:2 is often mistranslated as summer because this is the Modern Arabic meaning. In Classical Arabic the word "sayf" actually means "late spring" in the Arab six season system of shita/winter, rabi Awal/early spring, sayf/late spring, qayz/summer, rabi thany/early fall, kharif/late fall.

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