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Started by Kamzo19, June 28, 2012, 08:35:26 AM

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Kamzo19

Peace to all,

I thought it would be interesting to share views about a serious and very interesting documentary of alternative science, about UFOs and UFO Sightings.

In it, politicians and high ranking military from USA and GB testify about the phenomena asserting that it is real, and that there is a tremendous cover up from both governments.

Here is the link to this 2004 documentary, peace, waiting for your opinions.  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYPCKIL7oVw

Peace



johan

Salam Kamzo19,

It seems that not many are interested on UFOs related subjects..
But I'd think that AQ has quite somethings on "the aliens"..

I've heard about the foo fighters mentioned in the documentary..
I think their legacy go way long back to the times of the ancient ones..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Aliens
http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens/videos/ancient-aliens-foo-fighters#ancient-aliens-foo-fighters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yy5LxGJYJs

soo..if there were to be any aliens invasion, it's most likely a human orchestrated one..
the ufos that are flown around these days i would speculate that they are man made..
cuz by now, the MIB's must have perfected the Flying saucer technology of the nazi eras..

but aside from the man made UFO, I would argue that there are "alien" technologies involved..
but the "aliens" aren't malevolent aliens that most holy wood movies depict..

I would argue that the aliens are not coming down to earth because we aren't ready to welcome them.. :laugh:
Here is a hint from the AQ:
قُل لَّوْ كَانَ فِي الْأَرْ‌ضِ مَلَائِكَةٌ يَمْشُونَ مُطْمَئِنِّينَ لَنَزَّلْنَا عَلَيْهِم مِّنَ السَّمَاءِ مَلَكًا رَّ‌سُولًا ﴿٩٥﴾
[17:95] Sahih International
Say, "If there were upon the earth angels walking securely, We would have sent down to them from the heaven an angel [as a] messenger."

The technologies that have something to do with the babylonian man with eagle wings and round shaped ring :
وَأَرْ‌سَلَ عَلَيْهِمْ طَيْرً‌ا أَبَابِيلَ ﴿٣﴾
تَرْ‌مِيهِم بِحِجَارَ‌ةٍ مِّن سِجِّيلٍ ﴿٤﴾
[105:3] Sahih International
And He sent against them birds in flocks,
[105:4] Sahih International
Striking them with stones of hard clay,

my translation of the verse is:
And we have sent to them flying birds of Babyl..
showering them with stone-like projectiles of sijjeel..

could sijjeel be tachyons related technologies? :hypno:

a verse about the throne of Allah that is brought by an armada of 8 angles:
فَإِذَا نُفِخَ فِي الصُّورِ‌ نَفْخَةٌ وَاحِدَةٌ ﴿١٣﴾ وَحُمِلَتِ الْأَرْ‌ضُ وَالْجِبَالُ فَدُكَّتَا دَكَّةً وَاحِدَةً ﴿١٤﴾ فَيَوْمَئِذٍ وَقَعَتِ الْوَاقِعَةُ ﴿١٥﴾ وَانشَقَّتِ السَّمَاءُ فَهِيَ يَوْمَئِذٍ وَاهِيَةٌ ﴿١٦﴾ وَالْمَلَكُ عَلَىٰ أَرْ‌جَائِهَا ۚ وَيَحْمِلُ عَرْ‌شَ رَ‌بِّكَ فَوْقَهُمْ يَوْمَئِذٍ ثَمَانِيَةٌ ﴿١٧﴾
Then when the Horn is blown with one blast (13) And the earth and the mountains are lifted and leveled with one blow - (14) Then on that Day, the Resurrection will occur, (15) And the heaven will split [open], for that Day it is infirm. (16) And the angels are at its edges. And there will bear the Throne of your Lord above them, that Day, eight [of them]. (17)
[69:13-17]

8 motherships?

wallahua3lam
Peace

Prince

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Kamzo19

Salam to both, Prince and Johan,

Well, I also think that many of the UFO's flying around are man made, surely because of the Nazi's haunebus developed along the past decades. An episode of the Ancient Aliens series mentions Werner Von Brauun, ex-Nazi and the father of the American space program, when saying that he developed rocket technology and space technology with the help of aliens.

But when talking of aliens, what are we talking about ? Beings from other planets in this universe or from others ? (I mean, other dimensions...)

Do you think it's possible that Jinns, people from other dimensions, found a way to enter our universe through portals that lead to our universe ?

I was also thinking about what Credo Mutwa said to D. Icke in "The Reptilian Agenda",about the reptilian "chitauri's" literally living underground, on this Earth, hiding from the population of the surface and having preserved old technology by surviving massive disasters in distant pasts.

What do you think about all that ? Stewart Swerdlow mentioned a possible fake staged alien invasion against Humanity, where a reptilian race would come to save us and protect us from so called bad aliens. They would then (the reptilian "saviors")present themselves as part of the history of Humanity, and we would accept them, just as they were living among us in a remote Past. A serious book talks about a more than serious possible alien invasion, it is entitled "Project Epiphany" , written by Richard J. Boylan Phd....

Well, I don't see anything in Quran going against that. Quite the contrary, some passages of Quran (Jinn meaning also "Serpent' in Ancient Arabic) , and of the Bible with the Nephilims and the Old Serpent (Satan), go in that sense.

Anyway, for the Sura of the Elephant, I have another translation, I don't think it is what you mentioned Johan, but it's a good and original attempt.

Peace to both of you.

Kamzo

Prince

Salaam Kizmo.

David Icke is an interesting researcher and I find it interesting how the reptilian symbology is all over the world and throughout ancient history. I'm aware of the verse in the Quran of how Moses is instructed to throw his staff and it becomes serpent like which the word in arabic comes from the same root word as jinn....so maybe that there is a clue to the nature of what jinns are....whether they can shape shift as some believe I haven't come across any clues in the Quran.

I believe the modern technology we have was discovered through "alien" contact possibly through Roswell incident in New Mexico hence why Area 51 is a no go area and very secretive.

Based on my reading of the quran there's no doubt that we are NOT alone in being the only conscious beings in this universe, whether they fall under the jinn category or the category of other creations of Allah I'm still unsure.

PEACE

A book is only as good as it?s reader. Once opened symbols present themselves for the reader to decipher. We learn and relearn new conceptual models to comprehend these symbols. A book is only a tool.

johan

Quote from: Kamzo19 on July 02, 2012, 03:10:45 PM
Salam to both, Prince and Johan,

Well, I also think that many of the UFO's flying around are man made, surely because of the Nazi's haunebus developed along the past decades. An episode of the Ancient Aliens series mentions Werner Von Brauun, ex-Nazi and the father of the American space program, when saying that he developed rocket technology and space technology with the help of aliens.

But when talking of aliens, what are we talking about ? Beings from other planets in this universe or from others ? (I mean, other dimensions...)

Do you think it's possible that Jinns, people from other dimensions, found a way to enter our universe through portals that lead to our universe ?

I was also thinking about what Credo Mutwa said to D. Icke in "The Reptilian Agenda",about the reptilian "chitauri's" literally living underground, on this Earth, hiding from the population of the surface and having preserved old technology by surviving massive disasters in distant pasts.

What do you think about all that ? Stewart Swerdlow mentioned a possible fake staged alien invasion against Humanity, where a reptilian race would come to save us and protect us from so called bad aliens. They would then (the reptilian "saviors")present themselves as part of the history of Humanity, and we would accept them, just as they were living among us in a remote Past. A serious book talks about a more than serious possible alien invasion, it is entitled "Project Epiphany" , written by Richard J. Boylan Phd....

Well, I don't see anything in Quran going against that. Quite the contrary, some passages of Quran (Jinn meaning also "Serpent' in Ancient Arabic) , and of the Bible with the Nephilims and the Old Serpent (Satan), go in that sense.

Anyway, for the Sura of the Elephant, I have another translation, I don't think it is what you mentioned Johan, but it's a good and original attempt.

Peace to both of you.

Kamzo

Salam Kamzo and Prince,

Thanks for the pointers.
I'd agree with some points about the serpent thing with Prince.
Though not sure with jinn and the connection with serpent..

interestingly enough 7ayaah(life) and 7ayyah(serpent)  have same root 7a ya ya
Quote
فَأَلْقَاهَا فَإِذَا هِيَ حَيَّةٌ تَسْعَىٰ ﴿٢٠﴾
[20:20] Sahih International
So he threw it down, and thereupon it was a snake, moving swiftly.

وَاضْرِ‌بْ لَهُم مَّثَلَ الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا كَمَاءٍ أَنزَلْنَاهُ مِنَ السَّمَاءِ فَاخْتَلَطَ بِهِ نَبَاتُ الْأَرْ‌ضِ فَأَصْبَحَ هَشِيمًا تَذْرُ‌وهُ الرِّ‌يَاحُ ۗ وَكَانَ اللَّـهُ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ مُّقْتَدِرً‌ا ﴿٤٥﴾
[18:45] Sahih International
And present to them the example of the life of this world, [its being] like rain which We send down from the sky, and the vegetation of the earth mingles with it and [then] it becomes dry remnants, scattered by the winds. And Allah is ever, over all things, Perfect in Ability.
and we were ajinnatun(hidden/fetus/of jin??) also when we were inside our mothers womb

Quote
الَّذِينَ يَجْتَنِبُونَ كَبَائِرَ‌ الْإِثْمِ وَالْفَوَاحِشَ إِلَّا اللَّمَمَ ۚ إِنَّ رَ‌بَّكَ وَاسِعُ الْمَغْفِرَ‌ةِ ۚ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِكُمْ إِذْ أَنشَأَكُم مِّنَ الْأَرْ‌ضِ وَإِذْ أَنتُمْ أَجِنَّةٌ فِي بُطُونِ أُمَّهَاتِكُمْ ۖ فَلَا تُزَكُّوا أَنفُسَكُمْ ۖ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنِ اتَّقَىٰ ﴿٣٢﴾
[53:32] Sahih International
Those who avoid the major sins and immoralities, only [committing] slight ones. Indeed, your Lord is vast in forgiveness. He was most knowing of you when He produced you from the earth and when you were fetuses??? in the wombs of your mothers. So do not claim yourselves to be pure; He is most knowing of who fears Him.

so not sure what are jinn or even what are we? :D

I'm currently watching V in WB Tv. @Season 2 ep 2 i guess..
Very interesting, can't wait to see the endings.. :))
But if the jinn were to be serpent aliens, i'd bet they are way superior technologically then the depiction in V ..


wallahua3lam
Peace

Kamzo19

salam Johan and Prince,

Thanks for your insights. You think well about all that stuff, Prince. In my area of research, that is Old Semitic Languages, I noticed something very interesting about the nature of so called spirits/jinns, even in other ancient civilizations ( Mayan, Greek, Hindu,...). In Ancient Arabic language, there is effectively a clue to the nature of what jinns are.  ;)

Dear Johan, the root 7-y-y has two meanigs and each of the verses you quote refer in my opinion to one of the meanings. 53:32 refers to feotus and the others to life and snake respectively, because of the contexts. You're also right to say that if the  the jinn were to be serpent aliens, they're surely are way superior technologically then the depiction in V ...you can have an idea by reading "the Cometa Report" written by French renowned high degree scientists, freely downloadable on the web, and also Jacques Vall?e's books, that you can find for sometimes less than 10 USD on Abebooks.com.

Pay also attention to the last episode of V (2009), and compare it to what Serge Monast said about the Blue Beam Project, you'll be surprised ;-)



Peace,

Kamzo

johan

Quote from: Kamzo19 on July 09, 2012, 06:58:57 PM
salam Johan and Prince,

Thanks for your insights. You think well about all that stuff, Prince. In my area of research, that is Old Semitic Languages, I noticed something very interesting about the nature of so called spirits/jinns, even in other ancient civilizations ( Mayan, Greek, Hindu,...). In Ancient Arabic language, there is effectively a clue to the nature of what jinns are.  ;)

Dear Johan, the root 7-y-y has two meanigs and each of the verses you quote refer in my opinion to one of the meanings. 53:32 refers to feotus and the others to life and snake respectively, because of the contexts. You're also right to say that if the  the jinn were to be serpent aliens, they're surely are way superior technologically then the depiction in V ...you can have an idea by reading "the Cometa Report" written by French renowned high degree scientists, freely downloadable on the web, and also Jacques Vall?e's books, that you can find for sometimes less than 10 USD on Abebooks.com.

Pay also attention to the last episode of V (2009), and compare it to what Serge Monast said about the Blue Beam Project, you'll be surprised ;-)

Peace,

Kamzo
Salam Kamzo19,

great, will do some readings on those pointers inshaallah..
keep us informed..

Peace,
Peace

Prince

Quote from: Kamzo19 on July 09, 2012, 06:58:57 PM
salam Johan and Prince,

Thanks for your insights. You think well about all that stuff, Prince. In my area of research, that is Old Semitic Languages, I noticed something very interesting about the nature of so called spirits/jinns, even in other ancient civilizations ( Mayan, Greek, Hindu,...). In Ancient Arabic language, there is effectively a clue to the nature of what jinns are.  ;)


Energy beings?

Please share.

PEACE
A book is only as good as it?s reader. Once opened symbols present themselves for the reader to decipher. We learn and relearn new conceptual models to comprehend these symbols. A book is only a tool.

youssef4342

peace be with you as well
well, I would believe in extraterrestrial life, maybe even in other universes 42:29
also, Jinns might possess the capability of having advanced technology 27:38
they could fly around and "touch the sky" 72:8

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