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Shirk Within A Dream? Please help :(

Started by Aryan Warrior, June 08, 2012, 12:05:17 PM

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Aryan Warrior

Hello,

So oh man I woke up yesterday pretty badly from a horrible dream.


This was a long a multipart dream and the part that scared me the most had a strange bird that moved really quickly.

For some reason my dream self was thinking of him as God or maybe an incarnation of him (not sure which), which in a normal state i'd never think of something so horrible.

Mid way in the dream though I realized my own error there and was already scared of what I may have committed even though it was in a dream. I couldn't wake up no matter how much I tried in the dream (yes I had discovered it was dream at this point) and whenever I did wake up, I was still in a dream.

Regardless now that i'm actually a wake, I am quite scared I may have committed Shirk by just believing that in that  mid-dream while in real life I never would do so.

What does everyone think? Did I indeed do so? or because I wasn't in my conscious self that I will not be judged as such?


good logic

Peace Aryan Warrior

" Nonsense dreams! We are not knowledgeable in interpreting dreams."

But wait, the one who was saved can go and see Joseph for us.

This is what he said:    Your dream is to be continued, in the next dream you will see that it is judgement day, GOD will then condemn you to hell for ever . Then you will wake up and everything will be fine.

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Aryan Warrior

Quote from: good logic on June 08, 2012, 01:58:39 PM
Peace Aryan Warrior

" Nonsense dreams! We are not knowledgeable in interpreting dreams."

But wait, the one who was saved can go and see Joseph for us.

This is what he said:    Your dream is to be continued, in the next dream you will see that it is judgement day, GOD will then condemn you to hell for ever . Then you will wake up and everything will be fine.

Peace.

Peace good logic,

Um... what at that? I really didn't understand that.

good logic

That was " You did not commit - Shirk- "  in my opinion.

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Student of Allah

Quote from: Aryan Warrior on June 08, 2012, 12:05:17 PM
Hello,

So oh man I woke up yesterday pretty badly from a horrible dream.


This was a long a multipart dream and the part that scared me the most had a strange bird that moved really quickly.

For some reason my dream self was thinking of him as God or maybe an incarnation of him (not sure which), which in a normal state i'd never think of something so horrible.

Mid way in the dream though I realized my own error there and was already scared of what I may have committed even though it was in a dream. I couldn't wake up no matter how much I tried in the dream (yes I had discovered it was dream at this point) and whenever I did wake up, I was still in a dream.

Regardless now that i'm actually a wake, I am quite scared I may have committed Shirk by just believing that in that  mid-dream while in real life I never would do so.

What does everyone think? Did I indeed do so? or because I wasn't in my conscious self that I will not be judged as such?

Shalom Aleikhem,

When we dream, the logic machine in our brain shuts down. That is the reason we see weird things that we laugh about once we are awake but never question when we were seeing them while dreaming. In your case, your dream turned lucid after a while and you realized right from wrong (logic sector starting up).

I will answer your question in the form of another question.

Assuming you are a God, would you hold a person accountable for wrong doing when the person was missing a part of their brain, specially the part that reasons ?

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Aryan Warrior

Quote from: good logic on June 08, 2012, 03:42:19 PM
That was " You did not commit - Shirk- "  in my opinion.

Peace

I understand that part, but what is bothering me is that mid dream I believed that. Normally if one kills in a dream and such they aren't held accountable as no one really died but here this one is a more belief based that is freaking me out. Normally as I said I don't believe such things and are utter non-sense to me, but in that dream I was believing that non-sense until I gained my reality senses.

I understand that being in that dream state I was in a way "intoxicated" as in my mind clouded and couldn't remember or know any of Gods words and thus why this happened until I realized them but what bothers me is just cause the the idea of "belief" happening there that it is scaring me.

Quote from: Student of Allah on June 08, 2012, 03:46:42 PM
Shalom Aleikhem,

When we dream, the logic machine in our brain shuts down. That is the reason we see weird things that we laugh about once we are awake but never question when we were seeing them while dreaming. In your case, your dream turned lucid after a while and you realized right from wrong (logic sector starting up).

I will answer your question in the form of another question.

Assuming you are a God, would you hold a person accountable for wrong doing when the person was missing a part of their brain, specially the part that reasons ?

Peace
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You got a good point here... hmmm I never realized really that I got Lucid control of it hmm... well I guess it just really bothers me that I was believing it :/ but your words so far are quite enlightening :)

good logic

GOD works in mysterious ways.
Abraham had the dream.  He stayed loyal to his Lord.

Keep your loyalty to your Creator. HE is Forgiver most Merciful.

Peace.
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Aryan Warrior

Quote from: good logic on June 08, 2012, 03:57:22 PM
GOD works in mysterious ways.
Abraham had the dream.  He stayed loyal to his Lord.

Keep your loyalty to your Creator. HE is Forgiver most Merciful.

Peace.

Well I know that, but I mean am I guilty at all just for those brief instances of blind belief in that dream?

youssef4342

Peace be with you guys as well.

well dreams might just be symbolic in nature.
Consider Joseph?s dream, 11 planets prostrating before him, that didn?t mean he?s a god.

Here is a hypothetical interpretation:
-You might go through a strange situation very soon, (Strange bird, moving fast)
-You might commit a great error, and after realizing that you did, you will try to get yourself out of the consequences of the error with no avail...(shirk, in a Dream, can't get out of dream)

May God make my interpretation wrong :)
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Aryan Warrior

Quote from: youssef4342 on June 08, 2012, 09:46:02 PM
Peace be with you guys as well.

well dreams might just be symbolic in nature.
Consider Joseph?s dream, 11 planets prostrating before him, that didn?t mean he?s a god.

Here is a hypothetical interpretation:
-You might go through a strange situation very soon, (Strange bird, moving fast)
-You might commit a great error, and after realizing that you did, you will try to get yourself out of the consequences of the error with no avail...(shirk, in a Dream, can't get out of dream)

May God make my interpretation wrong :)

Well Joseph didn't think of himself as God in that dream though?

Well I guess some background on topic might help. If I were to guess that this had symbolism to it, I think it would be rather my great fear of Shirk that I always have and always so afraid of falling into and always therefore running away from. So what do you think?