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16:26 vs 2:127

Started by tlihawa, February 17, 2012, 10:09:03 AM

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tlihawa

Salam,
please take look at the following verses:

16:26   Those before them had schemed, so God came to their buildings from the foundation (qawaid), thus the roof fell on top of them; and the retribution came to them from where they did not know.
16:27   Then, on the Day of Resurrection He will humiliate them, and say: "Where are My partners regarding whom you used to dispute?" Those who have received the knowledge said: "The humiliation today and the misery are upon the rejecters."

Does two verses above become the opposite of another 'qawaid' stated in the following verses?

2:127    And as Abraham raised from the Sanctuary its foundations (qawaid), along with Ishmael: "Our Lord accept this from us, You are the Hearer, the Knowledgeable."
22:26   And We have appointed to Abraham the location of the House: "Do not set up anyone with Me, and purify My House for those who visit, and those who are standing, and the kneeling, the prostrating."


One thing crossing in my mind that the "foundation(s)" means something which related to basic belief in the existence of God, either monotheism or polytheism, confirmed by 16:27 and 22:26.

What do you think guys?

dawngorgeous

Peace Tihawa,
I think you would now find it beneficial to read Aidid Safar's works.
Dawn.

tlihawa

Peace Dawn,
I have read the book, but still it's hard for me to accept that the bayt = system literally since it has no base in dictionary, unless it stated using parable approach.
A friend of mine also shows that 9:108 -109 used the same approach:

9:108  Do not stand in it ever. A temple that is founded on righteousness from the first day is more worthy that you stand in it; in it are men who love to purify themselves. And God loves the purified.
9:109  Is he who founds his building on obtaining righteousness from God and His acceptance better, or he who founds his building on the edge of a cliff which is about to crumble, so that it crumbled with him into the fires of Hell? And God does not guide the wicked people.


So it seems that to get the big picture of Diin, Allah used a House or Building structure as metaphore. It easy to understand that the foundation of the "building" must be the same as what Prophet Ibrahim and Ismael has been raised up, the monotheism.

In line with these verses:

4:48   God does not forgive that partners be set up with Him, and He forgives other than that for whom He pleases. Whoever sets up partners with God has indeed invented a great sin.

9:17    It was not for the polytheists to maintain the temples of God while they bear witness over their own rejection. For these, their works have fallen, and in the Fire they will abide


with polytheism, all the good deeds will be nullified, just like a house which has its roof fell down caused by structure failures.

mmkhan

Quote from: tlihawa on February 19, 2012, 08:53:36 AM
I have read the book, but still it's hard for me to accept that the bayt = system literally since it has no base in dictionary, unless it stated using parable approach.

Salaam tlihawa,

24:61 لَیۡسَ عَلَی الۡاَعۡمٰی حَرَجٌ وَّ لَا عَلَی الۡاَعۡرَجِ حَرَجٌ وَّ لَا عَلَی الۡمَرِیۡضِ حَرَجٌ وَّ لَا عَلٰۤی اَنۡفُسِکُمۡ اَنۡ تَاۡکُلُوۡا مِنۡۢ بُیُوۡتِکُمۡ اَوۡ بُیُوۡتِ اٰبَآئِکُمۡ اَوۡ بُیُوۡتِ اُمَّہٰتِکُمۡ اَوۡ بُیُوۡتِ اِخۡوَانِکُمۡ اَوۡ بُیُوۡتِ اَخَوٰتِکُمۡ اَوۡ بُیُوۡتِ اَعۡمَامِکُمۡ اَوۡ بُیُوۡتِ عَمّٰتِکُمۡ اَوۡ بُیُوۡتِ اَخۡوَالِکُمۡ اَوۡ بُیُوۡتِ خٰلٰتِکُمۡ اَوۡ مَا مَلَکۡتُمۡ مَّفَاتِحَہٗۤ اَوۡ صَدِیۡقِکُمۡ ؕ لَیۡسَ عَلَیۡکُمۡ جُنَاحٌ اَنۡ تَاۡکُلُوۡا جَمِیۡعًا اَوۡ اَشۡتَاتًا ؕ فَاِذَا دَخَلۡتُمۡ بُیُوۡتًا فَسَلِّمُوۡا عَلٰۤی اَنۡفُسِکُمۡ تَحِیَّۃً مِّنۡ عِنۡدِ اللّٰہِ مُبٰرَکَۃً طَیِّبَۃً ؕ کَذٰلِکَ یُبَیِّنُ اللّٰہُ لَکُمُ الۡاٰیٰتِ لَعَلَّکُمۡ تَعۡقِلُوۡنَ

Sorry for  :offtopic:

There are many bayts mentioned in this aayat, like bayt of your own, bayt of your fathers, bayt of your mothers, bayt of your brother, sisters, uncles, aunts, etc. etc. so I thought it may help you understand better, inshaAllah.


May Allah guide us to His true path  :pr
mmKhan
6:162    قل إن صلاتي ونسكي ومحياي ومماتي لله رب العلمين
6:162    Say: My contact prayer, and my rites, and my life, and my death, are all to Allah, Lord of the worlds.

3:51

tlihawa

Salam mmkhan,
thanks for your information.

Surely, we will understand which house(s) means the physical one, and which house(s) need to understood metaphorically.

Please take a look at the following verses:

24:91 The parable of those who take protectors other than Allah is that of the spider, who builds (to itself) a house; but truly the flimsiest of houses is the spider?s house;- if they but knew.

All 'polytheist' bayt is just like a spider's house, the flimsiest one. Here the house is understood metaphorically. Same as the house in 16:26 and 2:127

and the next verse:

24:92 And such are the Parables We set forth for mankind, but only those understand them who have knowledge.

So I think the only way to distinguish between the physical bayt and the logical one, is to use our mind.

Peace..

drfazl


Mosques are everyone's Bayt; They built it with fear for God and people dwelling therein love to keep their houses free from sins and satanic influences.

9:108
Never stand in the mosque; surely there is this God?s house, built on piety from its very foundation; secure therein your holy foothold; and the family members wish sanctity therein; Allah loves sacredness.
Quran reading is useless unless we decisively stick to righteousness in our lives, at least to an extent possible. Based on such status Allah Guides, in such a way  [url="http://foolproofcure.net/index.aspx"]http://foolproofcure.net/index.aspx[/url]   that we do not transgress after receiving His Mercy.

dawngorgeous

Peace All,

On this issue, I think we should remind ourselves that God points out that the Koran has many allegories.  We know from the History books that Abraham apparently did not make it to the land where the Kabbah stands.  Therefore, using our intelligence, as God tells us to, Abraham could not have erected a physical 'bayt'.  The 'bayt' must therefore be metaphorical.  My Arabic is not good enough to analyse the word linguistically.

Dawn.