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The Original purpose of our creation?

Started by youssef4342, December 07, 2011, 03:06:10 PM

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youssef4342

Peace Everyone  :peace: :group:
Why are we here? What is the purpose of our creation?
A look into the Quran, and we see that there were 2 Original plans, one is to worship/serve God Almighty (51:56), and the other one is  to basically "to test us which one of us would do the best works" (67:2, 18:7, 11:7)

****People should Always be mindful of this Fact, that they should always try to do what is better, Say what is better, act nicely, forgive, pardon etc etc.
"...Pardon and Overlook; do you not love that God should forgive you? (24:22)
"And whoever endures and forgiveness--That is the best solution" (42:43)

***God Almighty stipulates that he will recompense those who do Bad with Badness, and those who do good with Goodness (53:51)
The Nice thing is that God ALmighty is able to Forgive all sins on one hand (39:53) the other, is that 1 good deed is counted as 10, and that God ALmighty never fails to recompense those who do good (12:56).

A Very important fact to keep in mind is that God guides those who are nice/do good, just like he guided Moses and Aaron in (37:114-121),
**And Take it from me, i was not religious at all. Nevertheless i was, i would say a nice person... I did charity work and advertized for charity, I volunteered, i was to say progressive & into the "betterment of the world". (i.e Help save the world)
Infact God has an Entire System of Reward for the Nice/Righteoues/Do Good (from knowledge & Wisdom 12:22, to a nice rememberance to the later generations 37:110  to even Admittance to Heaven! (5:85, 40:40, 4:124,10:26)

Remember: Goodness will be shown to those who do Good, and those who do evil will...well, get a taste of their own medicine!  (53:51)

Recommended readings:
God's System of Righteousness (The Reward system for those who are nice/do Good)
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602900
~ God's Unconnditional servants ~
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603053
7 "Hells", 2 Heavens, and a "Purgatory"
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603259



Blessed is the Lord God Almighty, the Righteous king of the Universe!
تبارك الله البر الرحيم 
ברוך יהוה מלך צדיק

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The purpose of the universe:

وَمَا خَلَقْنَا السَّمَاءَ وَالْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا لَاعِبِينَ
[Shakir 21:16] And We did not create the heaven and the earth and what is between them for sport.
لَوْ أَرَدْنَا أَنْ نَتَّخِذَ لَهْوًا لَاتَّخَذْنَاهُ مِنْ لَدُنَّا إِنْ كُنَّا فَاعِلِينَ
[Shakir 21:17] Had We wished to make a diversion, We would have made it from before Ourselves: by no means would We do (it).
بَلْ نَقْذِفُ بِالْحَقِّ عَلَى الْبَاطِلِ فَيَدْمَغُهُ فَإِذَا هُوَ زَاهِقٌ ۚ وَلَكُمُ الْوَيْلُ مِمَّا تَصِفُونَ
[Shakir 21:18] Nay! We cast the truth against the falsehood, so that it breaks its head, and lo! it vanishes; and woe to you for what you describe;



Humans, as a part of the universe are created to distinguish truth from falsehood; to distinguish reality/existence from delusion/non-existence.
To be a true believer we must identify all our delusions about ALLH and remove them: this entails finding the truth within ourselves and the truth of every moment we experience.



الَّذِي خَلَقَ الْمَوْتَ وَالْحَيَاةَ لِيَبْلُوَكُمْ أَيُّكُمْ أَحْسَنُ عَمَلًا ۚ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْغَفُورُ
[Shakir 67:2] Who created death and life that He may try you-- which of you is best in deeds; and He is the Mighty, the Forgiving,


The best in deeds are those who use their energy to create the most good deeds. We take in X calories of energy every day. Using those X calories we must then direct them with maximal efficiency to do the best good. The faster and more powerful your good deed are the faster Truth destroys falsehood. The faster Paradise is brought near.




ضَرَبَ اللَّهُ مَثَلًا عَبْدًا مَمْلُوكًا لَا يَقْدِرُ عَلَىٰ شَيْءٍ وَمَنْ رَزَقْنَاهُ مِنَّا رِزْقًا حَسَنًا فَهُوَ يُنْفِقُ مِنْهُ سِرًّا وَجَهْرًا ۖ هَلْ يَسْتَوُونَ ۚ الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ۚ بَلْ أَكْثَرُهُمْ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ
[Shakir 16:75] Allah sets forth a parable: (consider) a slave, the property of another, (who) has no power over anything, and one whom We have granted from Ourselves a goodly sustenance so he spends from it secretly and openly; are the two alike? (All) praise is due to Allah! Nay, most of them do not know.

وَضَرَبَ اللَّهُ مَثَلًا رَجُلَيْنِ أَحَدُهُمَا أَبْكَمُ لَا يَقْدِرُ عَلَىٰ شَيْءٍ وَهُوَ كَلٌّ عَلَىٰ مَوْلَاهُ أَيْنَمَا يُوَجِّهْهُ لَا يَأْتِ بِخَيْرٍ ۖ هَلْ يَسْتَوِي هُوَ وَمَنْ يَأْمُرُ بِالْعَدْلِ ۙ وَهُوَ عَلَىٰ صِرَاطٍ مُسْتَقِيمٍ
[Shakir 16:76] And Allah sets forth a parable of two men; one of them is dumb, not able to do anything, and he is a burden to his master; wherever he sends him, he brings no good; can he be held equal with him who enjoins what is just, and he (himself) is on the right path?

We must use our energy efficiency maximally for ALLAH: Being a poor slave to ALLAH is not the same thing as being a rich slave to ALLAH. If I spend my 2500 calories a day to earn 10 billion, then I give you and nine others a billion each and you then use that billion to do the same and give it to the poor, we will be rich in good deeds in no time.
As you fall asleep and wake up to a new day
So shall you enter your grave and arise to the last


"Now no person knows what delights of the eye are kept hidden for them - as a reward for their deeds" (32:17)

Paradox Uncreated

How long ago was it you stopped smoking DMT, OP?
Paradox Void is the infinitely superior.

Paradox Void is an attribute of God, or any other entity it should point to, which is the same entity.
Designer of all dimensions. Former of forms, shaper of shapes. According to truth.
Peace.

fabrinoo

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We must use our energy efficiency maximally for ALLAH: Being a poor slave to ALLAH is not the same thing as being a rich slave to ALLAH. If I spend my 2500 calories a day to earn 10 billion, then I give you and nine others a billion each and you then use that billion to do the same and give it to the poor, we will be rich in good deeds in no time.
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Dear Brother
peace
The maximization of efficiency can undoubtedly made you a wealthy and strong person and you will be able to help the billion of poor. Kindly think over it. Why people around you are poor while you are maximizing your efficiency in the way of Allah Subhana.Don't you think it is a self deception. This is a way, how religious leaders of all the time advise the maximizers to accumulate wealth, be rich and strong, to help poor so that you must be admitted to paradise. These are are capitalistic thoughts.             
َالَّذِينَ إِذَا ذُكِّرُوا بِآيَاتِ رَبِّهِمْ لَمْ يَخِرُّوا عَلَيْهَا صُمًّا وَعُمْيَانًا

amuslim

Peace youssef,

A question brother.  What do you make of the Surah Al-Araf, 7:172?

Sahih International
And [mention] when your Lord took from the children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants and made them testify of themselves, [saying to them], "Am I not your Lord?" They said, "Yes, we have testified." [This] - lest you should say on the day of Resurrection, "Indeed, we were of this unaware."

and 33:72

Indeed, we offered the Trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, and they declined to bear it and feared it; but man [undertook to] bear it. Indeed, he was unjust and ignorant.

Peace
[16:79]Do they not see the birds committed to fly in the atmosphere of the sky? No-one holds them up in the air except Allah. This should be (sufficient) proof for people who believe.

IAMOP

Quote from: fabrinoo on December 17, 2011, 12:22:23 PM
Dear Brother
peace
The maximization of efficiency can undoubtedly made you a wealthy and strong person and you will be able to help the billion of poor. Kindly think over it. Why people around you are poor while you are maximizing your efficiency in the way of Allah Subhana.Don't you think it is a self deception. This is a way, how religious leaders of all the time advise the maximizers to accumulate wealth, be rich and strong, to help poor so that you must be admitted to paradise. These are are capitalistic thoughts.             


Peace brother,

There is a big difference between one spending his wealth for himself and one spending it to bring paradise near. Quran sanctions the latter and recommends that we strive with all our might for this. Whereas those who hoard in a capitalist fashion will tend to be the denizens of hell. A person powerless and poor can reach heaven but a person rich and powerful can use their prosperity to help others into paradise too, they increase their own rank and the ranks of those around them. That is the example given in al-quran.

:peace:
As you fall asleep and wake up to a new day
So shall you enter your grave and arise to the last


"Now no person knows what delights of the eye are kept hidden for them - as a reward for their deeds" (32:17)

youssef4342

Note Correction:

The verse shoul be 53:31 not 51

***God Almighty stipulates that he will recompense those who do Bad with Badness, and those who do good with Goodness (53:31)"
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