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7 "Hells", 2 Heavens, and a "Purgatory"

Started by youssef4342, December 03, 2011, 12:18:39 PM

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youssef4342

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Taking a look at the Heaven/Hell controversy, you'll find that there isn't just one "Hell" and "Heaven", but infact 7 gates of Hell, 2 Heavens, and a relatable term, a "purgatory" This is a a more of a better requital because the degree of punishment/reward is varied (i.e each person will get requited for exactly his/her own work, and not just a mass equal punishment, or just throw them all in the Hell fire!

The 7 "Hells"
From the Hell perspective, each of the 7 gates of hell (15:44) has a degree of punishment (7:38). The Degree of punishment can be interpreted in as in a scale of 1 to 7x.
This is a sigh of relief because, even if you think you are destened to hell, doing good deeds might just put you in the lower degree of punishment in hell.
The requital of doing good is but Goodness (50:60), plus God never fails to reward the Rightous (12:56)
More cheering news is that good deeds erase/substitute bad deeds (11:114), and even better is that *one good deed counts as 10 good deeds (6:160)  and so, it's never too late nor is it futile to do rightous deeds, even if you have mountain piles of sins! 

*Now, one has to examin the Quran Carefully to see the sins in accordance to their degrees (i.e some examples cited to us, stated that some people did worse sins, like Noah's people in 53:52).  What we clearly know that the Hypocrites will be requitted the Lowest Degree of Punishment 4:145)
At the Day of ressurection we will be broken into three groups as per (56:7), those on the right (56:8 ), those one the left ,(56:9) and those who are the " forerunners" (56:10),  (who are close to God Almighty 56:11) and who are already in heaven at the moment (56:12)


The Two Heavens
There are many descriptions of Heaven, and the most repeated one is "Gardens with flowing streams"
The Heaven is as big as the width of the universe (3:133). An example is, If our universe is 1D, then the heavens can be described as a 2D. Now our universe is 3D, and there might be another diminsion where Angels & Devils live, as they can obviously see us, but we cant   (Devils & companions 7:27, Angels in the Sky  53:26, Devil can see what we can't 8:48)

The High Heaven
*It's Provisions (fruit) is hanging near (69:23), and it's fruit is everlasting (13:35) Has all kinds of fruit (47:15)... Remember this is a Garden ;)
*Has Cups in disignated place (88:14) Delicious drinks. (78:34), Rivers of unpolluted water, of fresh milk,of wine, of strained Honey (47:15)
*Contains A flowing stream (88:12)
*No unsuitable speach or lies will be herd (88:11, 78:35)
*Has beds raised high (88:13) 
*Has cushions lined up (88:15)   
*Has Carpets spread about  (88:16)
*Has Magnificent spouses (78:33)
*The Greetings:
*People in Heaven is simply "Peace" (10:10)
*Thier supplication to God is "Glory be to thee" (10:10)
*Their last supplication is "Praise Belongs to God the Lord of the Worlds" (10:10)

The Regular Heaven (or in this case, the "low" heaven)
*It's Provisions consists of Many fruits. (56:32); Never ending; never forbidden. (56:33)
*it's water that has to be poured out (56:31)
*It has Extended shade (56:30) and  lush orchards. (56:28)
*It has Luxurious furnishings(56:34)
*It's dwellers are pared with Never previously touched mates (56:35,6)
*Those who reside in this  "lower" Heaven are called, the "firends" of the right side (56:27)
***As a Note, whoever just misses hell and enters heaven has truely won (3:180), so there isn't much to worry about whether if you go to the "High" or the regular heaven.
***Also, an allegory of the High/Regular heaven would be from the Film Avatar, you know, the blue people... There are scences where there is virtually luxious green "gardens" that are literally floating in the air (High Heaven), and there are the regular, yet nevertheless beautiful gardens on the main planet (regular heaven)



Who Will Go to Heaven?
*Heaven is Especially for those who are Reverant (43:35, 68:34, 26:90, 50:31, 19:63)
*Those who don't want to be exalted, nor want corruption on earth (28:83)
*Those who are nice/do good (5:85, 40:40, 4:124,10:26  , recompesed with a life in bliss (77:44)
*Those who submit to God AND do are nice/righteous (2:111)
* Those who believe AND do good/righteous work (7:42) AND humble themselves to God Almighty (11:23)
*Those who fight in the sake of God (9:111)
***Note Those who get to go to heaven do so because of their WORKS (7:43)


How many will go the Heaven?
For the High Heaven: Many from the first generations (56:10), and few from the later generations (56:13-14).
For the Regular Heaven: Many from the early generations and many from the later generations (56:39-40).
*** Note the earlier generations are those who were born/died before the time of Moses as per 28:43, and the later generations are those who are born during and after the Time of Moses.


Who will NOT go to Heaven
*Those who Associate with God/Commit Idol Worship are Forbidden to enter Heaven 5:72)
*Those who disbelieve in God's Revelations, and turn Arrogant against them 7:36,40, 
* Those who refuse to believe and are Arrogant (4:173)
***A note, Those who are ARROGANT are most likely Not Going to Heaven. God Does NOT like the arrogant (16:23), and he Purposely Misguides the arrogant (7:146)!
  ***Arrogance has many forms, from racism and being prejudice, to even thinking you're overly righteous/good!


Again, it's never too late nor is it futile to do rightous deeds, even if you have mountain piles of sins! (40:40)
If you repent and lead a rightous life, God will turn your Bad deeds into Good  ones (25:70)
The Lord God Almighty is Forgiving, and can forgive ALL of your sins (39:53)




Blessed is the Lord God Almighty, the Righteous king of the Universe!
تبارك الله البر الرحيم 
ברוך יהוה מלך צדיק

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Mr.Q

Salam,

Nice work but might I make one point? Regarding arrogance, our arrogance towards each other is one thing, and not recommended for believers but the real arrogance you might want to stress is arrogance towards God. That's what is really detrimental to people and what will really prevent them from attaining Heaven.

It our arrogance towards Him that prevents people from practicing their religion even when they say they believe, disobeying Him - even in "small" things and from not upholding His commandments.

Aryan Warrior

wow I just saw this from my topic and went here and dang good job dude :D

This is quite a hopeful topic and shows how so many will indeed enter heaven. God is merciful... so freakin infinitely merciful that he so many will enter heaven from their good deeds and so freakin merciful that good deeds are worth 10 times a sin and thus if one has only done a 10:1 ratio of sin to good deeds, they are bound for heaven and thus shows that one truly has to be scum to enter hell then.


Mr.Q

Salam,

Just remember most peoples works are nullified on Judgement Day for being disbelievers or associating Idols with God. Both those things nullify everything we did in life, even with 10-1 odds. See 9:69, 39:65, 47:32, 2:217, 3:22, 6:88, 7:147, 39:65, 47:28

While "many" will make it to Heaven, the majority of all humans ever to come here will not. See 6:116, 12:103, 12:106 and 16:83. 

youssef4342

Peace  :peace:
Thank you Aryan Warrior
As I've stated in your post, i actually left this article, while it was about, and it was your article that encourage me to finish this one :)

To Mr.Q
You brought up a good point, that your works can be nullified.
However, the good thing is that there are actually 7 degrees of punishment, and not just "1-size fits" all kind of punishment.  My point of view was both positive and encouraging in the sense (i.e doing good works might just place you in the lesser degrees of punishment, even if you think you're 100% going to hell..... there is no loss in doing good deeds)

Other Articles relevant to this:
God's System of Righteousness  (or the reward system for the righteous)
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602900
~ God's Unconditional servants ~
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603053

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Abdul-Hadi

Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

An excellent post! I do have some things to add...

I'll speculate here; are the seven gates of hell the following: wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony?

If a trap has seven triggers, does that mean that there are seven different effects?  :hmm I'm not certain that there are degrees of hell--just that there are seven paths to get there.

AQ mentions the EXAMPLE of paradise. The descriptions are not literal, ISA.

Regarding good, there is also the following:

41:33 And who is better in saying than he who invites to GOD, and does good works, and says: "I am one of those who have submitted."

Don't neglect to invite others to ALLAH!

ALLAH knows best.

:peace:

~Abdul-Hadi


youssef4342

Peace & Greeting back to you Abdul-Hadi  :peace:  :group:
Thank you for your nice regards!
An Affirmation of the Degrees of Punishment, is in 7:38, where God Almighty Specifically state sthat to each is double the punishment (I do not know of whether each of the 7 gates have exponential degrees of punishment of multiple).
Nevertheless, This again means that there is an equal degree of punishment in accordance to the sins acquired, and again, it's more fair than a "1-size fits all" kind of punishment"
Also, you are correct about the Quran mentioning heaven in Examples and not in the literal.

Moreover, one major category i overlook was the people in the "Purgatory(الأعراف)."   
They're cited in (7:46). We do not know what kind of nature they're in, nor why they're there, but and their Destiny is fortunate because they will end up going into Heaven 7:49.
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Mr.Q

Salam,

Purgatory has always been a bit of a mystery but from what they say and do on Judgement Day, they speak like believers and recognize each group, so they obviously have knowledge of God and of what He has taught in His Revelations. My "speculation" is they are probably people who believed but died before the age of 40. Thus they are not being Judged solely on the Record and works of their life.

youssef4342

Peace Mr. Q  :peace:
Nice Speculation.
I would Also think that these people might have not have had enough time in order to hear the truth or be warned etc.
Imagine that there are may still be Tribes living around the Amazon river  today which have 0 contact with the outside word. Same goes with other secluded groups of people. Thus the purgatory is a kind of "Stand-by" between the Heavens and Hell.
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Abdul-Hadi

Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

Quote from: youssef4342 on December 05, 2011, 11:59:57 AM
An Affirmation of the Degrees of Punishment, is in 7:38, where God Almighty Specifically state sthat to each is double the punishment (I do not know of whether each of the 7 gates have exponential degrees of punishment of multiple).
Nevertheless, This again means that there is an equal degree of punishment in accordance to the sins acquired, and again, it's more fair than a "1-size fits all" kind of punishment"

@youssef4342: Thank you for your words of kindness!  :)

In AQ 7:38, it seems that the denizens of hell petition for the punishment to be increased for each other  :voodoo:, and ALLAH grants that *everyone* in hell gets double the original punishment. It doesn't *seem* to be tiered based on level of sin. However, ALLAH is Most Merciful and the Best Judge. Whether tiered or not, all will get exactly what they deserve. By conventional wisdom (such as it is) two times infinity is still infinity.

AQ instructs who is "more wicked".  >:D

The categories of "more wicked" follow (please note that hell is NOT limited to the following categories!):

1. those who prevent the temples of GOD that His name be mentioned in them; and they seek their destruction. (AQ 2:114)

2. one who conceals a testimony with him from GOD (2:140)

3. one who invents lies about GOD (6:21, 6:93, 6:144, 7:37, 10:17, 11:18, 18:15, 39:32, 61:7)

4. one who denies ALLAH's revelations (6:21, 6:157, 7:37, 10:17)

5. or turns away from ALLAH's revelations (6:157, 18:57, 32:22,)

6. one who says: "I will bring down the same as what GOD has sent down." (6:93)

7. one who denies the truth when it comes to them (39:32)

Note that telling lies is mentioned in AQ more than twice any other category.

There is also the category of "more astray":

1. he who follows his desire, without guidance from GOD (28:50)

2. he who calls on others besides GOD (46:5)

More astray is not guarantee of a different end; the astray are called wicked in 28:50.

Also worth mentioning:

98:6 Those who rejected from the people of the Book and the polytheists are in the fires of Hell abiding therein, those are the worst of creation.

Although they are worst of creation, they *may* not have the worst punishment reserved for them ~exclusively~. Do you punish the murderer of 33 people any different than the murderer of 32 people? Who gets the worst punishment according to AQ?

27:4 As for those who do not believe in the Hereafter, We have made their work appear pleasing to them, so they walk around blind.

27:5 They will have the worst retribution, and in the Hereafter they are the biggest losers.


ALLAH knows best.

:peace:

~Abdul-Hadi